wait till yeaman gets back

Really? Surprising. We hardly seem to make any, our second phase is pretty much non-existent.

As I said on the match thread well done to all & a win is a win...now I've watched the game in full and the commentators are right..
We are so desperately poor in attack, the passing is too slow, Houghton is one of the culprits and couldn't change the direction of play if he had a force 12 gale blowing in the opposite direction..Oh and did we even have any dummy runners or anyone backing up for breaks?
Yes we've had a tough schedule and our defence was pretty good for the most part but Widnes moved the ball far better than we did, had no weight in their forwards to speak of and thank god for their mistakes.
Shaul's inability to get the pass out with a 3 on 1 (Ah Van knock down) was criminal.

If we can win games playing that badly I'll take it, frankly though if we do it'll be a miracle!

I'm sorry, but that's a gross exaggeration. We do actually have plenty of players who look for the offload but our support play is so lacking that we rarely get the opportunity to make one successfully. Even so, we are no better or worse than many other sides in the competition.

We have enough faults without inventing others.

It's commonly accepted that the officiating is pretty poor, and I think that's accurate. I think where inaccuracy kicks in is how much fans think it is weighted against their team.

I didn't think we were particularly on the bad end of a refereeing performance on Friday, in all honesty. A couple of mistakes made for/against each team, that's about it. The fact that one of those mistakes led to a try for them but not vice versa is partly chance, partly that we weren't/aren't clinical enough when given the ball from 20 yards out. We had a chance that we shouldn't have had, as did they. That we didn't take advantage and they did is not the officials working against us.

The perception of everyone always being offside against us often comes from our slow work at the ptb, IMO. Even the actual act of playing the ball, watch how we are slower than most other sides, and then our passing is often slower, too. These seemingly small things add up to extra yards teams can move up in defence with good line speed. You can also add in that we seem to run back into the more highly populated ruck areas more than most other team as well. On Friday, the fact that Widnes clearly looked fresher than us at the start of the game created a bit of an illusion that they were constantly a mile offside IMO. Actually, they most often just had more energy than us and were moving up quicker. I thought it was noticeable that it faded away as the game went on and they tired, and it wasn't just that Silverwood didn't police it in the first half but then did in the second.

Disagree they played the chance percentage game of offside when in our half take the risk ,when in own stay onside.
Lots of times where two yards in front of old Silverback he has a tendency to only look one way for offside.

Agree our play the ball needs speeding up and would help if players supported the ball carrier.

I always thought that the defending side could not move forward from the 10 metre mark until the ball hand been played (heeled) backwards.
Nothing to do with how fit the defending side might be or how slow the play the ball might be.

You won't get many on this thread actually agreeing that it goes both ways.

You're right if done correctly the defending team cannot move until the attacking player's foot touches the ball.
However every team pinches a couple of yards it just depends how lenient the ref is.