Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 am
The Eclipse
Player Coach
Joined: Jul 01 2006 Posts: 2960
HFC Boy wrote:The Club have totally misunderstood what was required for this season. The root of our troubles started, with the needless trip to Australia.
I believe the trouble started with the ridiculous extensions of Minichiello & Manu contracts, they are both way past it, on decent money & taking up quota spots.
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:26 am
Mild mannered Janitor
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 7735 Location: Here there and everywhere
HFC Boy wrote:Pearson has no RL knowledge based advisor, or influence. It seems since Motu left our recruitment is dire. Radford is the person Pearson is listening too ! As for the Academy, it was a mistake to have a joint one, with our nearest and dearest!
Why was it a mistake to have a joint academy? Do you see a benefit in us funding one on our own?
I would hope that some one with Pearson's experience in sports administration that he can build relationships and result in introductions through he former employees.
Pearson has owned Hull fC since 2011. That's long enough to understand how things work if you are from a sports background.
With all due respect, you have no idea that Radford is the ONLY person that Pearson listens to. I would hazard a guess that Ellis has a decent network of contacts across the game, especially in Australia.
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:30 am
Mild mannered Janitor
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 7735 Location: Here there and everywhere
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Wigan who were just docked two points for salary cap offences?
This paranoia amongst some Hull FC supporters is embarrassing.
I agree that the paranoia is cringeworthy at times.
But I reckon there is not a single Wigan fan that had the 2019 Salary cap points deduction on their mind when they were watching their captain lift the trophy at Old Trafford last October.
The Punishment is woefully light and in an era of apparent "Live" salary cap, why is this not detected until the following season.
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:32 am
Mild mannered Janitor
Club Owner
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The Eclipse wrote:I believe the trouble started with the ridiculous extensions of Minichiello & Manu contracts, they are both way past it, on decent money & taking up quota spots.
Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know what coin they are on.
If in the twilight of your career you have the choice of a reduction on pay or nothing at all, what would you do?
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:33 am
ccs
International Star
Joined: Aug 15 2011 Posts: 5318
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:The Punishment is woefully light and in an era of apparent "Live" salary cap, why is this not detected until the following season.
Because the player/players involved received (reduced) payments to keep within the cap, and their "agents" were payed separately, but that money should have gone directly to the players, and would have then exceeded the cap.
It took so long because wigan denied doing anything wrong, so it had to go to an independent tribunal, at which point they admitted the offence.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:30 am
Armavinit
International Star
Joined: May 24 2011 Posts: 2475
ccs wrote:Because the player/players involved received (reduced) payments to keep within the cap, and their "agents" were payed separately, but that money should have gone directly to the players, and would have then exceeded the cap.
It took so long because wigan denied doing anything wrong, so it had to go to an independent tribunal, at which point they admitted the offence.
So deliberately erroneously subverting the cap and compuonding it by lying only gets a meagre fine and docked 2 points? Seems very lenient to me. That’s not paranoia.
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:35 am
Bombed Out
International Star
Joined: Feb 21 2012 Posts: 1420
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know what coin they are on.
If in the twilight of your career you have the choice of a reduction on pay or nothing at all, what would you do?
Although I agree with the overall idea of your post, my reckoning is that you don't know that they were offered a reduction in pay or nothing at all.
It would be fair to assume as the previous poster alluded too that they will be on a decent wage, maybe not high, maybe not low but decent as they are overseas players and both former internationals.
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:35 am
His Bobness
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 19 2006 Posts: 1337 Location: Hibbing, Minnesota.
mean_machine wrote:Adam tangata is at Widnes now, played for fax for a couple of years but think this is the 1st time in a full time environment. He could do a good job for somebody only young as well but he was a stand out in the championship like Hill, Walmsley, Bullock. Just needs a chance. Big man as well
Post subject: Re: Time for Pearson so make a marquee signing
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:00 pm
Dave K.
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25859 Location: Back in Hull.
Keiththered wrote:in your previous post you never referred to next season. I said this season.
Im sure you are right about the possibilities for next season. However the present incumbents have not shown that they are able to attract top players. The previous team was built by Motu Tony. nothing remotely exciting has happened on the player front since he left.
You did, so I apologise.
I think everyone knows that we aren't going to sign 4/5 players for next season my first post was talking about next season.
Tony was so influential at getting the right players in, I'd still think he would point Hull in the direction of a NRL player or two
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