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Tinkerman23 wrote:Id prefer to see tala and griffin doing that sort off work in opposition half , rather than our own 20, just think our bench needs to make a differance instead of seeming like a stop gap until our better players have a rest , at least with pritchard it felt like he was bringing something to the team when he came on
They do both. Tala was both our top try scorer and the main man at getting us going. Griffin is just going to add to that. A tremendous asset to have such massive units in the backs with the skill sets they have. It's often Tala that makes the forwards look better in the first place. I'm sure they don't want him to change his style any time soon. Didn't think the bench played like stop gaps tbf. Frank was a big part granted but Bowden and green were big for us for lots of games and washy straightened us up and added some direction in many games
airliebird,runninglate! wrote:They do both. Tala was both our top try scorer and the main man at getting us going. Griffin is just going to add to that. A tremendous asset to have such massive units in the backs with the skill sets they have. It's often Tala that makes the forwards look better in the first place. I'm sure they don't want him to change his style any time soon. Didn't think the bench played like stop gaps tbf. Frank was a big part granted but Bowden and green were big for us for lots of games and washy straightened us up and added some direction in many games
Bowden started the season really well, green was ok with a some good games back end off the season, think thompson probably the best impact from the bench for next year . Agree about tala , would just like to see more from all of our backs in opposition half, and if we aint, we need a bench of forwards who can make an impact , and I dont think we have
Tinkerman23 wrote:Bowden started the season really well, green was ok with a some good games back end off the season, think thompson probably the best impact from the bench for next year . Agree about tala , would just like to see more from all of our backs in opposition half, and if we aint, we need a bench of forwards who can make an impact , and I dont think we have
Radders could potentially start with Hadley & Manu in the second row and play Mini from the bench to provide that impact.
Green is also capable of doing so, if he can carry on the form from the Cup final onwards, the guy is massive and should be bullying opposition defences.
Green, Bowden, Mini & Connor isn't a bad bench at all really.
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DGM wrote:Radders could potentially start with Hadley & Manu in the second row and play Mini from the bench to provide that impact.
Green is also capable of doing so, if he can carry on the form from the Cup final onwards, the guy is massive and should be bullying opposition defences.
Green, Bowden, Mini & Connor isn't a bad bench at all really.
Hadley wouldn't be in my 17, and definitely not the 13, mini always a starter for me Green, Bowden hopefully better after another year playing plenty, connor can change things, Id go with Thompson over Hadley for bench spot, would of looked a lot better with Pritchard on the bench imo
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Hadley wouldn't be in my 17, and definitely not the 13, mini always a starter for me Green, Bowden hopefully better after another year playing plenty, connor can change things, Id go with Thompson over Hadley for bench spot, would of looked a lot better with Pritchard on the bench imo
I like Hadley, he's pretty solid and I'd like to see him get plenty of game time this year to allow him to step up and replace Mini/Ellis the year after. Mini, Ellis and Manu (who knows how serious a back op it was) are all another year older, so we need to make sure rotation is spot on to get the most amount of games out of them. Hadley, Washbrook or Thompson can all spell any of them.
Tinkerman23 wrote:Hadley wouldn't be in my 17, and definitely not the 13, mini always a starter for me Green, Bowden hopefully better after another year playing plenty, connor can change things, Id go with Thompson over Hadley for bench spot, would of looked a lot better with Pritchard on the bench imo
Really? I rate Hadley. Although it's either starter or nothing for Hadley really as his game suits playing longer minutes. Mini is certainly better, but having him on the bench could give us the balance & impact over 80 minutes to really wear defences down.
Tommo I don't particularly rate. He's capable of the odd big run and making a half break, but I think he's a little bit anonymous in defence and makes a fair few mistakes positionally around the ruck and at A/B defender, which result in problems. Plus he seems to be favoured playing down the middle rather than wider in the 2nd row channel.
Agree on Pritchard. I used to get a warm feeling knowing that after 20mins or so he'd be unleashed.
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Unless there is a big improvement in Thompson he shouldn't be near our starting 17 (depending on injuries) apart from the odd moment he has been poor the last two seasons, needs to find a position as not sure were he fits in. Should be behind Hadley and Washy in the pecking order and personally I would rather see the likes of Masi or Turgut given a chance as at least they have some potential.
I hope I'm wrong but I feel we have moved up a level the last two years and Thompson has been found out abut.
Faithful One wrote:I like Hadley, he's pretty solid and I'd like to see him get plenty of game time this year to allow him to step up and replace Mini/Ellis the year after. Mini, Ellis and Manu (who knows how serious a back op it was) are all another year older, so we need to make sure rotation is spot on to get the most amount of games out of them. Hadley, Washbrook or Thompson can all spell any of them.
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:That's the reason why we need another forward.
The trouble is if we go out and sign another forward, it puts the likes of Osborne, Matongo, Fash, Turgut, Downs et al. further down the pecking order. There's probably only going to be one of Washy, Hadley and Thompson playing each week, which means we can provide cover to two injuries before having to rely on the youngsters. Having not seen any of the 23s games last year I have absolutely no idea how well theyd fit into the first team, but if I've learnt anything over the past couple of years it's to trust the people that see these blokes day in, day out.
Hadley have always rated and think he can be a very good player for us. Thompson hasn't cut it for me. Time to give some of the youngsters a go turgut etc . Let's see if they can step up if needed
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