The Dentist Wilf wrote:I guess the situation is that when you are worrying about dropping down into the middle eight and all the issues there are with that, the style you play and the hesitation to play expansive rugby in case you conceded stops you trying a bit of off the cuff stuff. When your safe from potential relegation you can expand things a bit test your arm and try a few youngsters. That doesn't mean you don't care about winning quite the contrary and I hope that we play every game with the intensity we have of late, but with no inhibitions now! It must at least 'free us up a bit' which should be good to watch don't you think!
Good post, completley differant to been happy of making the 8 and the "pressure" been off, like a lot of posters seemed happy with (although quite a few back tracking now) think the op was correct with his opening statement
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Kosh wrote:So you've never, ever, heard the term used in any professional sport ever before? Pardon me if I find that hard to believe.
And yes, I have actually heard the phrase used by coaches of the more successful SL sides before. It's all about context.
But that wouldn't make such a good excuse to have another pop at Radford, would it?
I know it's said and I've seen the results of Hull relaxing once "the pressure's off" all too often. That's the point I'm making. We shouldn't go in with the attitude that the pressure is off because it shouldn't be until the season's over.
Who's having a go at Radford? I've been frustrated at our play-off performances since 2006 and at our knack of underestimating certain teams during the normal season because we wrongfully assume the pressure isn't as high when we play them. Haven't you?
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WormInHand wrote:I know it's said and I've seen the results of Hull relaxing once "the pressure's off" all too often. That's the point I'm making. We shouldn't go in with the attitude that the pressure is off because it shouldn't be until the season's over.
As far as I'm aware nobody from the club has suggested that their ambition has been lowered. Or that there won't be internal pressure for wins/results/final place. Whether we deliver or not is another thing but far too much is being made of a commonly-used sporting phrase to suggest that we simply aren't bothered any more.
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Kosh wrote:As far as I'm aware nobody from the club has suggested that their ambition has been lowered. Or that there won't be internal pressure for wins/results/final place. Whether we deliver or not is another thing but far too much is being made of a commonly-used sporting phrase to suggest that we simply aren't bothered any more.
Regardless of the phrase used we've all too often over the years looked like we're simply not bothered anymore....
That's what I'm worried about going into the Super8. But yes, I may be worrying needlessly. Just hope if they do feel the pressure's off we see expansive rugby like Wilf hopes and not the capitulation we've seen in the past.
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The Dentist Wilf wrote:I guess the situation is that when you are worrying about dropping down into the middle eight and all the issues there are with that, the style you play and the hesitation to play expansive rugby in case you conceded stops you trying a bit of off the cuff stuff. When your safe from potential relegation you can expand things a bit test your arm and try a few youngsters. That doesn't mean you don't care about winning quite the contrary and I hope that we play every game with the intensity we have of late, but with no inhibitions now! It must at least 'free us up a bit' which should be good to watch don't you think!
Totally agree with that Wilf, it is what I was trying to get at. Well put.
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ccs wrote:.... if we'd lost against Rovers, the pressure would really have been ramped up for the Wigan game, but we didn't, so the pressure ............
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Only on the FC Forum would fans argue for this long about semantics! The pressure is reduced as now the threat of relegation has gone...but now there's a new pressure, to perform against the better teams, finish on a high and leave fans excited for next year.
I'm looking forward to the next 8 games without the negatively which has lingered at the KC like one of Hudgell's farts.
ccs wrote:.... if we'd lost against Rovers, the pressure would really have been ramped up for the Wigan game, but we didn't, so the pressure ............
...so the pressure is now on to make the top four.
Kosh wrote:So you've never, ever, heard the term used in any professional sport ever before? Pardon me if I find that hard to believe.
And yes, I have actually heard the phrase used by coaches of the more successful SL sides before. It's all about context.
But that wouldn't make such a good excuse to have another pop at Radford, would it?
The only time you tend to hear it in sport is when there's nothing to play for. That's when the pressure is actually off. You can't get relegated, but you can't win or qualify for anything either. That's a "pressure off" situation.
Reaching the top eight and still having a shot at the top four most certainly isn't a "pressure off" situation. People using the phrase are either lacking in ambition for the club this season or are acutely misusing it.
Is the pressure really off? The answer is no. The pressure is on to win every game possible to reach the top four, where we are four points off and at a disadvantage to some of the clubs around us. The pressure is on every game.
There is less fear of losing as before as there are less consequences for the club as a whole. But that was true of the entire licensing era. Look what that resulted in.
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