Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:04 pm
Raggytash
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Joined: Jun 08 2008 Posts: 2212 Location: Purgatory
frepneyboy wrote:What an absolute joke and a shambles.
This is a perfect example of why we will never be a top of the table contender.
Can you imagine Leeds, Wigan or Saints "discovering" Lineham and Crooks, and what they would have turned them into? The game would have the best 2 international backs for years.
What do we do, hound them out of the club
Wherever Crooks goes i hope we turn that club in to the next Bradford, we have his registration and we should take action against him and the club, just like Leeds and Harris.
Dont sit on here racking up your posts comforting yourself with the line "we'll score loads against him" we wont, as you are all pinning your hopes on nobodys, as someone stated, we are stuck with Yeman Sa Naughton, big wow.
and pinning your hopes and filling your socks over 32 year olds or 28 year old RU players while seeing this as a nothing really is aiming so very low.
The club has driven 2 talents away from it, for whatever reason, lack of success, clown coaches, lack of money whatever, its sad.
Holy Moly! Crooks is a THIRD grade centre, and wouldn't make the first team at Hull next season. If he did, that would show a genuine lack of ambition from the club! You really think Yeaman, Sa or Naughton wouldn't at least manage 2nd grade in the NRL? Even Tansey and Thorman played first grade! Radford, the fans, nor the 3 Aussie coaches Crooks has worked under this season have failed him. He's failed himself, and was the epitome of a one season wonder. The ridiculous knee-jerkery on this issue is amazing!
If we'd signed a 22 year old third grade centre, you'd be going absolutely mental!!!!
The words of fools mean nothing to one who resides in the truth.
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:38 pm
*1865*
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Joined: Jul 25 2008 Posts: 14158
Raggytash wrote:Holy Moly! Crooks is a THIRD grade centre, and wouldn't make the first team at Hull next season. If he did, that would show a genuine lack of ambition from the club! You really think Yeaman, Sa or Naughton wouldn't at least manage 2nd grade in the NRL? Even Tansey and Thorman played first grade! Radford, the fans, nor the 3 Aussie coaches Crooks has worked under this season have failed him. He's failed himself, and was the epitome of a one season wonder. The ridiculous knee-jerkery on this issue is amazing!
If we'd signed a 22 year old third grade centre, you'd be going absolutely mental!!!!
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:40 pm
Kosh
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Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
While it's disappointing to lose a young player who showed a great deal of potential early on I think some of the reactions on here have been way OTT. Ben did have opportunities to prove himself before he left the club and failed to take them. He also hasn't been tearing up any trees in Australia - in fact his career there appears to have been even more disappointing than at Hull. Lineham is the bigger loss by some considerable distance.
Let's wait and see how he gets on at Cas before bemoaning the loss of a giant talent, eh?
Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:01 pm
Mrs Barista
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Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29812 Location: West Yorkshire
Raggytash wrote:Holy Moly! Crooks is a THIRD grade centre, and wouldn't make the first team at Hull next season. If he did, that would show a genuine lack of ambition from the club! You really think Yeaman, Sa or Naughton wouldn't at least manage 2nd grade in the NRL? Even Tansey and Thorman played first grade! Radford, the fans, nor the 3 Aussie coaches Crooks has worked under this season have failed him. He's failed himself, and was the epitome of a one season wonder. The ridiculous knee-jerkery on this issue is amazing!
If we'd signed a 22 year old third grade centre, you'd be going absolutely mental!!!!
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:06 pm
hard team to follow
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Joined: Jun 09 2012 Posts: 198
Raggytash wrote:Holy Moly! Crooks is a THIRD grade centre, and wouldn't make the first team at Hull next season. If he did, that would show a genuine lack of ambition from the club! You really think Yeaman, Sa or Naughton wouldn't at least manage 2nd grade in the NRL? Even Tansey and Thorman played first grade! Radford, the fans, nor the 3 Aussie coaches Crooks has worked under this season have failed him. He's failed himself, and was the epitome of a one season wonder. The ridiculous knee-jerkery on this issue is amazing!
If we'd signed a 22 year old third grade centre, you'd be going absolutely mental!!!!
difrence from my club to your club we have got coaches who can coach and will get the best out of him he is a Cas lad and it will bring the best out him playing for is home town .
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:09 pm
Dave K.
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Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25989 Location: Back in Hull.
hard team to follow wrote:difrence from my club to your club have we got coaches who can coach and will get the best out of him he is a Cas lad and it will bring the best out playing for is home town .
Not sure what him being a Cas lad has to do with it and I don't think my just playing for his hometown it will improve his defence and bring the best out of him.
Powell has a tough job, but he does have a good track record of improving players ability to get the best for the team, but lets kid ourself he hasn't done it for either player you have signed, Tansey for one.
Guess we will see if we have made a mistake with Crooks.
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:15 pm
Kosh
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Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
Dave K. wrote:Fair assessment (although, I think he has potential to be top class), he certainly isn't 3rd rate like a previous poster claimed.
I think the point is, that I think he is a better player (Or at least has more potential) than any of our current centres at the club.
Hopefully if we recruit right and Jack Logan continues to develop it won't matter about Crooks.
I am disappointed and feel the club is at least partly responsible for this, but some of the posts on here a way over the top.
Out of interest, is Ben playing 3rd grade in the NRL, who are the Eels 2nd grade?
I didn't see anyone call him third rate.
I'm not sure there's any evidence to justify a claim of his superiority to any of the centres at our cub. In fact I'm pretty sure there's none whatsoever. Even if you stretch that to potential the evidence is hardy compelling. He had one terrific season and has done nothing since at two different clubs on two continents.
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