barham red wrote:Not saying Agar is the right man for your club by any means (actually think like most of you he is out of his depth) but what kind of season would you now see as a success for your club next year.
Most have admitted a major rebuild is needed and these take time in any sport, new players regardless of experience need time to gel and fit in with each other, its no surprise the teams who have finished at the top end of the table have made very few changes close season, some may not work and further tweaks will be needed.
So bearing in mind you have finished 11th (potentially this year) twice in the last two years would you be happy to get 7th or 8th next year and progress that way or would anything less than top 4 be seen as a failure and mean the end of Agar and co.
Quite simple, until we no longer have names like G.Horne, R.Whiting, P.King. et al then the club will remain is the shadow of the bigger teams i n SL, we wont be troubling the likes of Leeds and St Helens for a hell of a long time.
Lets face it, getting players like Long at the back end of their career is hardly the coup that some people would have us believe!
Rommel wrote:Been saying this for years and been slated for saying so
Yeah...youre right again Rommel......Two CC Finals and a GF in the last 4 years......we must be really crap. I bet all the other teams in SL are just glad they havent had the 'luck' we've had eh?
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Standee wrote:Laughable, can any of us, hand on heart, say we'd still be in a job if we performed as pathetically as ur side have done?
NO
Yes, Rich has diabetes and has been injured, yes Thorman was never the answer, yes some players like a drink (and by half time on Friday I would have joined them)
People need to STOP making allowances, Hull FC is, quite simply, dead in the water. Agar couldn't drive a coach, let alone coach a side.
It's simple
Agar is useless Sharp is useless Last is useless Crooks is usless the announcer is useless the board are useless the CLUB is useless
I'd rather be back the the Boulevard watching Tim Street and Chicko Jackson, at least they put their bodies on the line, not like this lot.
And remember, Horne and his colleagues pull in an average of £60k a year for that tripe they dish out, DO YOU!?
And before the usual suspects come on, I went on Friday, so I am damn well entitled to comment.
I watch Tim Street and Chico Jackson playing quite regularly.......They havent lost a game yet either
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No Agar isn't the problem, the board is. Agar is useless and is'nt the right man to take this club forward, we all know this, but why don't the board? Agar isnt going to sack himself, so unless the board have the guts to do so, he is still in a job, and as long as he is still in a job, Hull FC are going nowhere. Kear and Sharp were sacked for a lot less, so why hang on to Agar who is considerably the worst of the 3? I'm sick of hearing 'judge Agar with his own team', well I am judging him NOW, and what I see NOW, is nowhere near good enough. Anybody can be successful if they have everything right there infront of them, but a good coach will make average players look like good players (take Nathan Brown for example), Agar on the other hand has made good players look like average players, which is why he will never be good enough to be a head coach in SL, never mind for Hull.FC.
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I'm sick of hearing how this isnt Agars team so we can happily write this season off as it doesn't count. Rich' bloody Agar is the coach so whether he likes it or not they are HIS team.
CHEWIE7 wrote:Yeah...youre right again Rommel......Two CC Finals and a GF in the last 4 years......we must be really crap. I bet all the other teams in SL are just glad they havent had the 'luck' we've had eh?
It wont be long until its 2 CC Finals and 1 GF in 14 years. you had your time now you need to rebuild.
the sooner we realise that we arent a "big"club anymore maybe we can move forward...all i read on here is get this aussie coach get that aussie coach..nobody will come while we have this clueless set of players..for me its get rid of the players who dont deserve to wear the shirt-there is plenty of them...iam prepared to give agar a chance
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a good coach can coach any team to the best of their ability as long as there are no personality clashes.
brian smith 1988 with a team of also rans got them playing for each other and taking what limited ability the squad had to heights no one could ever imagine including the players themselves.
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There are rare coaches that can make poor playing staff perform well but they are few and far between. We have a poor coach, a poor squad and an awful board. I can't see how simply replacing Agar will solve our problems, I don't believe any coach worth their salt would come to Hull under the current regime. That said, it's definitely worth a try!
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t.m.t.b.f. wrote:a good coach can coach any team to the best of their ability as long as there are no personality clashes.
brian smith 1988 with a team of also rans got them playing for each other and taking what limited ability the squad had to heights no one could ever imagine including the players themselves.
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