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Mild Rover wrote:Personally, I have had enough of Rovers doing what others tell us is right - what’s best, and a bit of dark arts, makes a nice change. Like when Connor gets lauded for being a gobshite, by you some of you lot.
I don’t remember the Scruton contact with the head one but i’ll look out for it when I watch it back. Can you recall roughly when it was and who he hit?
I think the Connor gobbing off issue has become a bit of an urban legend. Does he really get under the skin of the opposition that much? I am not so sure. Its not like he is constantly chipping away at the referees ala Sinfield, Brears, Wellans etc.
Scrutton was a late hit on Adbull, around 65 mins in. I appreciate he is not the barometer of accuracy, but Cummings in the studio does say "if there is contact with the head, hes in trouble". When Faraimo gets a Red for the VR informing the on field ref of the incident on Good Friday, I would have expected a yellow for Scrutton, given that there was contact with the head.
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I think the Connor gobbing off issue has become a bit of an urban legend. Does he really get under the skin of the opposition that much? I am not so sure. Its not like he is constantly chipping away at the referees ala Sinfield, Brears, Wellans etc.
Scrutton was a late hit on Adbull, around 65 mins in. I appreciate he is not the barometer of accuracy, but Cummings in the studio does say "if there is contact with the head, hes in trouble". When Faraimo gets a Red for the VR informing the on field ref of the incident on Good Friday, I would have expected a yellow for Scrutton, given that there was contact with the head.
Connor pretending to be neymar to milk a penalty, getting up laughing and causing what ultimately became the end of your season was the bit he was probably on about.
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barham red wrote:Connor pretending to be neymar to milk a penalty, getting up laughing and causing what ultimately became the end of your season was the bit he was probably on about.
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I think the Connor gobbing off issue has become a bit of an urban legend. Does he really get under the skin of the opposition that much? I am not so sure. Its not like he is constantly chipping away at the referees ala Sinfield, Brears, Wellans etc.
I’d broadly agree with that. But the perception of what he is, is well within tolerances for what i’d expect fans of his own team to excuse or even enjoy. I don’t think there’s many fans on either side who’d draw the line in a place that excludes from acceptable a tackle like Tickle’s in a derby when made by their own side.
Mild mannered Janitor wrote: Scrutton was a late hit on Adbull, around 65 mins in. I appreciate he is not the barometer of accuracy, but Cummings in the studio does say "if there is contact with the head, hes in trouble". When Faraimo gets a Red for the VR informing the on field ref of the incident on Good Friday, I would have expected a yellow for Scrutton, given that there was contact with the head.
I remembered that as being Jewitt. Yellow would have been a tad harsh imo, but it wouldn’t have been the most egregious decision of the night, I admit. That’d still have been the VR missing Griffin’s knock-on assist for Abdull’s try.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Mrs Barista wrote:Put yourselves in their position for a moment. They loved Scott Taylor and called for him to get a 5 year deal there. Just look at this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=522913
Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
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Mrs Barista wrote:Put yourselves in their position for a moment. They loved Scott Taylor and called for him to get a 5 year deal there. Just look at this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=522913
Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
ccs wrote:You're absolutely sure there was a knock on?
I think there was conclusive evidence.
However the fine distinctions between certain, beyond reasonable doubt, confident etc. are difficult for the VR when things are sent up with an on field decision. Assuming the VR saw Griffin’s fingers move, I think the VR must have taken the question to be ‘is there a theoretical possibility that’s caused by something other than contact with the ball?’
And, tbf, absolute certainty is impossible. Of that I am absolutely certain.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25900 Location: Back in Hull.
Mrs B that thread has cheered me up, some of the posts from Rovers fans are pure gold.
Tracy claiming Jordan Cox was a a better player than Ellis or Barham Red claiming he would't challenge for trophies or get international honours at Hull, I'm not sure what is funnier.
Joined: Jan 19 2006 Posts: 1337 Location: Hibbing, Minnesota.
Firstly apologies for being over exuberant in my delight at a long awaited derby win. It's been a long time coming.
I do think that Hull FC have more problems than a bad injury situation I stick by that. You're not going to become a bottom 4 team any time soon no doubt but I think you have settled into a bit of a lull.
Your Super 8 games may seem unimportant but I think Lee Radford will not agree. For all the loyalty of Pearson I think Radford's job rests on the line.
I think there will be little to choose between the Hull clubs next year in fact we may just edge ahead of you. Of course we still have to stay in the league first!
I predicted a while ago you would finish 8th that was possibly wishful thinking but it's far from impossible now. Play like you did at St Helens in the cup and you'll soon have me and others retreating back to the Hull KR forum.
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