Mrs Barista wrote:Pretty mixed near us. Teenage lads behind with middle aged couple, family in front with kids 10ish, plus grandparent. Difficult to tell as the family area which I think was relatively popular is in the West Stand where the cameras are.
They allow kids of 10 to watch that! Shame on you, they'll be scarred for life.
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Drew peacock wrote:Our neighbours are offering free tickets to the challenge cup tie against wigan,for all fans who were present at the thrashing at wigan. A decent gesture. IMO.
Drew peacock wrote:Our neighbours are offering free tickets to the challenge cup tie against wigan,for all fans who were present at the thrashing at wigan. A decent gesture. IMO.
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blakeysrobin wrote:They allow kids of 10 to watch that! Shame on you, they'll be scarred for life.
Schucks. We've even let our kids out go to a CC final at the fine Millenium Stadium. A Grand Final at the grandiose Theatre of Dreams and even a couple of trips to the new Wembley Stadium. All in the last ten years as well.
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WIZEB wrote:Schucks. We've even let our kids out go to a CC final at the fine Millenium Stadium. A Grand Final at the grandiose Theatre of Dreams and even a couple of trips to the new Wembley Stadium. All in the last ten years as well.
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easthull fc fan wrote:Of course I do, I'm a season pass paying supporter who wants to see us play to our strengths, we have played terrible in execution but I'm pleased with our defence 90% of the time, I would have played Abdul In Westys absence, as for yeamo he gets the defensive part right 9/10 times, his attacking flair is very poor at times but we don't have an attacking centre who reads opposition attack like him so I see why he plays him in a fashion, if you look at sariginson for Wigan he gets it wrong a very lot in defence but gets the attack right & has pace outside of him, I think we carry more pivots on the bench because of our poor attacking style for more available options, our current performances are poor for several reasons, I see Houghton as a pit pony but lacks the smartness to spot/create we have an old head in Pryce who can get us where we want on the field but Sneyd needs to execute better with his kicks, Westy is the link to the fringes & when this happens with our first choice back rowers on we can do damage, when you get in the oppositions 20, the best 3 options are =1 score a try, 2 a back to back set, 3 turn it over in the 10 & be disciplined & defend for your life, try & force errors/ make them kick under pressure within their 30/40 , for some reason we haven't been doing this but if you watch them train you will see they work non stop on this, but for some reason they're not taking it into a game. But like I say when they do play with the strongest 17 we will click, we are winging some games with some squad players in, but the performances are scrappy, but me for one will take any 2 points we can take no matter how we play, no one remembers the decent performances like at home to wire, they just remember the 2points lost, & in a season with P & R with other decent teams after the same thing we need all we can get, so rather then bitch on here about any of our staff not just LR which changes nothing on the pitch, I turn up & support the cause I have since I was 13.
Absolute b****y nonsense. That has specifically and consistently been referenced, including in the last few days, as an example of what a lot of we fans want to see and how accepting we can be of defeats providing they are in the right manner. I try not to engage with you much because I think it's largely a wasted exercise, but I have to point out that this comment is indicative of why I can't ever take you or the bulk of your posts seriously. You are (understandably) incredibly one-sided in a lot of your views, and in order to continually defend Radford and his role in the current state of things you come out with a lot of simply fictional claims.
Personally, I think that if you honestly consider Radford to be doing a good job and the club/Pearson to be doing the right things, you should be able to make cases for them fairly easily without continually making things up.
Oh, and also on a similar theme, I don't think it shows anyone in a positive light when you suggest that people wouldn't be willing to tell Radford what they think to his face because he'd thump them. Firstly because it shows a primitive mentality from yourself, and secondly because it suggests that you don't give Radford the credit of being able to rebut any criticism or stomach it. (Personal insults are different, but a lot of what you and Hokeydokey latch onto on here are not actually what you claim.)
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easthull fc fan wrote:Didn't LR bring the likes of shaul,lineham,Bowden, Hadley on in the youth set up about 4 years ago when he was head of u20s? Might I add Shaul & Hadley was never scholars & lineham was about to be binned off if gentle would have got his way, as we nearly signed another journeyman who's played for kr & crusaders, & greens from wakey or leeds.
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Developing players isn't simply a case of giving them debuts. It starts when they are 13 or 14 years old (at least in terms of involvement of SL clubs). Most of the kids in the 19s who are so lauded now were already involved at the club when Gentle came in and certainly before Radford took charge. We won't really start seeing the benefit of Pearson's investment and the effect of the coaches for another couple of years yet. Radford and Gentle have played a part in their development of course. But a good player is a good player regardless. Who knows if this is simply a good batch or if it's down to improvements to the youth system?
Also, just because Radford says Gentle wanted to sign Youngquest (who knows how true that story is?) it doesn't mean Lineham was "about to be binned off." He might have just had to wait a few months longer for his chance. Oh and Green might have been born in Leeds (not entirely sure if that's even true), but I played with him as a kid, he's spent most of his life in Hull. He was playing for Skirlaugh when we picked him up.
I agree. Obviously to many it's now desirable to paint McRae as a complete villain and blame him for most of our woes, but the fact remains that his 2 spells at Hull have coincided with our youth setup improving, and it was pants in the interim. I personally find it hard not to see the 2 as linked.
There's also a massive difference between young players making their debuts, and young players looking ready for their debuts. As much as Gentle is also a target for allegedly not wanting to play youngsters (something we only have the current setups claim for), the only hard evidence available to us is that he did play them, and a considerable majority of them did not look out of their depth when they came in (I'll make the obvious point - dream team). I remember very few looking out of their depth. Radford has since been bestowed this role as champion of the youth system despite the fact that he only looks to them when he has no choice, drops them again pretty much as soon as he can, and some of those who came in under Gentle and looked ok look worse now.
There's been some massive propaganda gone on over the last 18 months IMO.
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:I wasn't really referring to that direct point. All I'm trying to say is that we have a good batch of youngsters at u'19s level, but how much is that to do with the investment and the coaching and how much is it to do with it being simply a good batch? The mark of a good youth set up is when good players emerge year on year.
Again, a good point I agree with. Over the last decade or so we have IMO often mistaken a competitive U19s side for a strong youth system. The core purpose for a youth system is to provide the first team with players of high enough quality, and for the first team to then improve them further. For a lot of years we haven't actually seen this.
When have I ever said LR would punch someone? I said the personal slagging is out of order, the wire game was a good effort but we gained nothing from it, at the end of the season we won't stay in SL because we played decent against wire we will stay in with points picked up, & LR was u20s coach.
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