Mrs Barista wrote:To try and stop the rather vitriolic exchanges I will try and summarise what's happened so we can all move forward:
1. We lost in very disappointing fashion on Friday
2. Some posters said they felt at their lowest ebb in decades (let's call them Group A)
3. Some other posters felt this was surprising/daft in the context of other events/tenures during this time - including possible extinction. (Group B - but mainly me I guess)
4. Group A then come back with we should be doing much better, we're a big club
5. Group B then say well technically we're not as big as we'd like to think we are (Dean Friedman style) based on objective financial measures and Super League history (where there's a very strong correlation), so maybe there's a disconnect between expectation and realism. Not to say aspirations should be dialed down, just expectations may need to be better managed.
6. Group B gets accused of (I kid you not) attacks, insults, being vomit-inducing, crazy, boring, a fool, garbage, persecuting, self-righteous, insulting, needing banning, needs to get a life...there are a lot more but you get the gist.
Perhaps to sort all this out a list of these attacks and insults I've been made can be set out, so I can address each in turn and apologise as required - genuinely. I really don't think that I've given out anything like the rather nasty personal attacks made to me in 6 above, but if we want to conclude this slightly unsavoury dialogue let's have the specifics. I won't ask for the reciprocation, but I notice one of the main protagonists has already deleted his most extreme/personal post yesterday, so I will take that as a token of regret.
Chris71, I apologise for posting a laughing emoji when you posted that this was your lowest point for 40 years. You are right, I shouldn't assume I know what others are feeling and their own experiences.
Apology accepted and wishing I hadn’t posted anything to be honest.
At the end of the day we are all fans of this great club and as shown by the posts in this thread everyone is frustrated with the performances and that’s the crux of it all. We are not in Salford position financially and whilst not in the same bracket as St’s or Warrington it doesn’t excuse the poor and inconsistent performances. The players actually want for nothing and I think just a little too cosy with some also seemingly too close to Radford.
For me Radford has to distance himself from the players as in he is no longer ‘one of the boys’ he’s the boss. Sometimes it just seems all too pally pally.
We all want the same thing and that’s for the club to be successful and play decent rugby consistently. I don’t mind getting bear but it’s the manner in which we have been tonked and embarrassed by our own performances rather than the excellence of opposition, that’s what sits uneasy for me.
No doubt we will all still turn up as tomorrow another day but AP & LR have to be aware and switched on to the fact that these swings in performances are starting to turn off the fan base which isn’t a recipe for success either.
If you look at it a different way as a product such as a meal that needs a lot on different ingredients to be top quality you still need a capable and quality chef. Without that you can keep changing the ingredients and occasionally you’ll get lucky and turn out a few decent dishes but you’ll have far more poor/average ones and be very inconsistent.
But with a top chef you’ll get the best out of the ingredients you use and make a far better dish and consistently than someone who is an ok cook.
