Joined: May 12 2011 Posts: 3338 Location: West Hull
Mild Rover wrote:If they’re fit, I think Connor, Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton is your best spine.
Been barking up that tree for a while, especially when Shaul was playing absolutely shiiiite first half of the season. Can't see him ever being dropped tbh.
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -Emmitt Smith
hesslefan wrote:A few observations on last night just to get them off my chest. A dramatic occasion being a Derby and in that weather but probably one of the poorest quality games of rugby I can remember seeing. If I see another game where all the tries are so scrambled and scrappy I will lose interest. We were poor and Rovers slightly less so, so the best team won. He was not the reason we lost but Hewer was poor. I do not watch Rovers so do not know anything about about Jewitt but what a cheap thug. At least a couple of late, off the ball tackles which along with the crusher tackle on Griffin and Tickle's charge in to Taylor's back when he was held should be reviewed by the disciplinary committee. If not then a few fellow professionals should give Tickle a good talking to down a dark alley because that was simply dangerous. I like Tickle from his time at Hull but that was poor. When Hewer called Scruton over for his second high tackle he seemed to give him a one word telling off - comical. Wet slippery conditions so for god's sake why don't players carry the ball in two hands? Our ball control was pathetic and probably cost us the game. We made good yards and in the first half at least barely finished a set. Our creativity in attack in the absence of Kelly and Connor is non existent. This is not a criticism of Sneyd who does a different job. I would be happier with Crooks and Hall in our squad than some of the youngsters we have persisted with who I do not think will make the grade - not as regular first teamers but good back up squad members. We are on a poor run but I am glad I am not a Leeds fan. How does an 80 minute game last 2 hrs and 10 minutes? The roof leaks above my seat in the West Stand!
The Tickle hit on Taylor was really cheap. Nothing illegal about it of course, but I still dont like to players flying in on a defenceless player like that, especially in the back. Pretty cowardly and potentially dangerous. When you consider some of the really cheap penalties that are awarded for marginal high tackles, maybe they should be penalised aswell.
the cal train wrote:Been barking up that tree for a while, especially when Shaul was playing absolutely shiiiite first half of the season. Can't see him ever being dropped tbh.
Connor is our best player (imo) and we need to get him in the team. Shaul is the weak link out of the positions Connor can play. People are crying out for some pace out wide. The obvious answer is Connor at 1 and Shaul at 5 isn't it?
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
hesslefan wrote:A few observations on last night just to get them off my chest. A dramatic occasion being a Derby and in that weather but probably one of the poorest quality games of rugby I can remember seeing. If I see another game where all the tries are so scrambled and scrappy I will lose interest. We were poor and Rovers slightly less so, so the best team won. He was not the reason we lost but Hewer was poor. I do not watch Rovers so do not know anything about about Jewitt but what a cheap thug. At least a couple of late, off the ball tackles which along with the crusher tackle on Griffin and Tickle's charge in to Taylor's back when he was held should be reviewed by the disciplinary committee. If not then a few fellow professionals should give Tickle a good talking to down a dark alley because that was simply dangerous. I like Tickle from his time at Hull but that was poor. When Hewer called Scruton over for his second high tackle he seemed to give him a one word telling off - comical. Wet slippery conditions so for god's sake why don't players carry the ball in two hands? Our ball control was pathetic and probably cost us the game. We made good yards and in the first half at least barely finished a set. Our creativity in attack in the absence of Kelly and Connor is non existent. This is not a criticism of Sneyd who does a different job. I would be happier with Crooks and Hall in our squad than some of the youngsters we have persisted with who I do not think will make the grade - not as regular first teamers but good back up squad members. We are on a poor run but I am glad I am not a Leeds fan. How does an 80 minute game last 2 hrs and 10 minutes? The roof leaks above my seat in the West Stand!
Taylor was held, but not ‘HELD!’, so Tickle’s tackle was brutal but legal. It made me wince-smile, i’ll say that. There was nowt in the ‘crusher tackle’ on slapper Griffin, and i’ll be disgusted if that gets a charge... although not necessarily surprised.
Nothing personal, but the mental image of you with a monk-on, sat beneath the leaking roof made me snort-laugh, and turned an ordinary post into something of literary merit.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Joined: May 12 2011 Posts: 3338 Location: West Hull
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Connor is our best player (imo) and we need to get him in the team. Shaul is the weak link out of the positions Connor can play. People are crying out for some pace out wide. The obvious answer is Connor at 1 and Shaul at 5 isn't it?
Is Shaul fast though? When did he last make a break and not get chased down? Haven't seen him get a shift on since he chased down Sandow at Wembley in 2016.
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -Emmitt Smith
the cal train wrote:Is Shaul fast though? When did he last make a break and not get chased down? Haven't seen him get a shift on since he chased down Sandow at Wembley in 2016.
Mild Rover wrote:Taylor was held, but not ‘HELD!’, so Tickle’s tackle was brutal but legal. It made me wince-smile, i’ll say that. There was nowt in the ‘crusher tackle’ on slapper Griffin, and i’ll be disgusted if that gets a charge... although not necessarily surprised.
Nothing personal, but the mental image of you with a monk-on, sat beneath the leaking roof made me snort-laugh, and turned an ordinary post into something of literary merit.
Yeah the Griffin crusher was a whole load of nothing. Makes me cringe when fans are screaming and chanting for the ref to send him off. Griffin just turned in the tackle and and I don't think there wasn't really any unnecessary pressure applied. I do though have a problem with the inconsistencies that referees show in this situation, such as in the CC cup game when Richardson turned his back into Houghton and we ended up getting a yellow card from it. Tickle hit into Taylor's back as you say was a legal challenge. Bad sportsmanship most definitely. The tackle was complete (held hadn't been called but it was pbvious nobody was going anywhere) and he was wrapped up by 3 men. Very unnecessary but nothing in the rules against it.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Hasbag wrote:Yeah the Griffin crusher was a whole load of nothing. Makes me cringe when fans are screaming and chanting for the ref to send him off. Griffin just turned in the tackle and and I don't think there wasn't really any unnecessary pressure applied. I do though have a problem with the inconsistencies that referees show in this situation, such as in the CC cup game when Richardson turned his back into Houghton and we ended up getting a yellow card from it. Tickle hit into Taylor's back as you say was a legal challenge. Bad sportsmanship most definitely. The tackle was complete (held hadn't been called but it was pbvious nobody was going anywhere) and he was wrapped up by 3 men. Very unnecessary but nothing in the rules against it.
Yeah, i’ve got to admit to enjoying it as guilty pleasure and acknowledge my hypocrisy in that i’d be pretty unimpressed if it was the other way around. But you can always justify it by recalling times when we’ve been bullied or suffered for being too nice, if you want to. I’ve got enough material to keep buying off my conscience for a good while to come fortunately/unfortunately.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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