Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:38 pm
pmarrow
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 04 2006 Posts: 6347 Location: Hull
Dave K. wrote:I'm only talking one youngster Litten, Brown is a pretty experienced player, madness not to plat Savelio too.
Bringing in Shaul after no pre season, two injuries was a really stupid decision.
I understand he hands are tied, but so was Hodgson in his first season amd it wasn't this bad.
When do you bring Shaul in ?
What makes you think Litten would have being a better option ?
Smith hasnt guessed, hes being let down again by the players who are doing it to the 4th head coach.
Im not sure Smith will take us to silverware over the next few years. However the players have to go, Pearson has given them a sense of player power and managed the cap in a way that we have 20 ooc.
Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:45 pm
Dave K.
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Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25995 Location: Back in Hull.
pmarrow wrote:When do you bring Shaul in ?
What makes you think Litten would have being a better option ?
Smith hasnt guessed, hes being let down again by the players who are doing it to the 4th head coach.
Im not sure Smith will take us to silverware over the next few years. However the players have to go, Pearson has given them a sense of player power and managed the cap in a way that we have 20 ooc.
Honestly I wouldn't either play Shaul, past it, lost his speed and poor under the high ball. But at least give him some time in the reserves.
Litten has played well at FB in pre season, reserves and in the first team when asked, he is the future, he deserves his chance.
Same with Gardnier or Brown before Evans.
No accountability for being poor.
Probably the biggest test in Smiths coaching career.
As mentioned Hodgsons hands were tied first season, we weren't as bad as this
Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:03 pm
Chris71
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Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 8317 Location: Never never land away with the fairies
Simply not good enough in any aspect across the whole aspect from players to the coaches. Granted Smiths hands are tied this season but some of the selections beggar belief and we are eorse thdn last season which takes some doing. I really have to question what is actually worked on in training as we are the most disorganised outfit I’ve ever seen out there. We can’t defend or rather can’t be arsed to defend, we are so thick out on the field it’s embarrassing, we can’t even finish a set off as we are so unorganised and end up simply handing the ball over. Think biggest part is the players that need to be cut from the club but we don’t seem to be able to grasp the basics of the game.
Still think Smith will turn it round next season but don’t think Pearson can afford to keep 5 or 6 of this group beyond the next week or two as they are just causing to much rot.
The players should he ashamed of themselves for pitiful performances like today but they won’t be as it just the norm for them.
Time for Smith to wield the axe big time, as trying to salvage the season with the so called senior group is laughable. Even the likes of Satae and Sao aren’t even cutting it to add to the usual names. There’s just far too many regularly in the 17 that shouldnt even be in the 21 man squads.
AP and Clarke are very much culpable for allowing the playing squad to go so far backwards so quickly instead of building on 2016/17.
We all knew this season was going to be tough due the obvious reasons but there is just no excuse for the embarrassing and pathetic effort from these so called professionals.
I don’t think I’ve ever been so disillusioned or disheartened by this club.
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
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Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:03 pm
LifeLongHKRFan
Player Coach
Joined: Dec 02 2009 Posts: 2150
I know you are going to say i'm a rovers fan gloating but during the week, I spoke to someone who works at Hull who told me, the problem is that the players wont listen to Smith. Honestly they need to get rid of those players and Hull will be a lot better team. I just hope Pearson doesn't have a knee jerk reaction and sack him. If they back him then Hull will become a great team to watch like Rovers were underneath him.
Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:06 pm
number 6
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Joined: Aug 01 2005 Posts: 11686
Biggest bunch of quitters I've ever seen...just gave up!
Smith got his selection wrong to imo, Shaul clearly not match fit and ĺost pace, experience counts for nothing if you have lost them , Litten done nothing wrong to be dropped, macintosh I'd have nowhere near the first team atm, just have no confidence in him, leaving Savellio out was a big call..but Evans over him???
Well done Rovers...you won't have an easier game all season....until the reverse fixture where it could be even worse!
Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:08 pm
UllFC
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 27 2004 Posts: 17410
LifeLongHKRFan wrote:I know you are going to say i'm a rovers fan gloating but during the week, I spoke to someone who works at Hull who told me, the problem is that the players wont listen to Smith. Honestly they need to get rid of those players and Hull will be a lot better team. I just hope Pearson doesn't have a knee jerk reaction and sack him. If they back him then Hull will become a great team to watch like Rovers were underneath him.
These players have been poor under several coaches now and need to be paid off if that is their attitude.
The 1st half today showed that even when they put the effort in most of them simply aren't up to it. Not big, fast or creative enough and the amount of dropped balls on a dry day was ridiculous.
Post subject: Re: Good Friday Derby: Record score for Hull KR
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:12 pm
pmarrow
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 04 2006 Posts: 6347 Location: Hull
Dave K. wrote:Honestly I wouldn't either play Shaul, past it, lost his speed and poor under the high ball. But at least give him some time in the reserves.
Litten has played well at FB in pre season, reserves and in the first team when asked, he is the future, he deserves his chance.
Same with Gardnier or Brown before Evans.
No accountability for being poor.
Probably the biggest test in Smiths coaching career.
As mentioned Hodgsons hands were tied first season, we weren't as bad as this
The coach isnt the problem. Proof is in the pudding 4 head coaches same results with virtually same core of the squad.
Over 30 times conceding 50+ points, thats not coaching thats the ability of the players. The older they get the worse they get.
I said when Smith was appointed he wouldnt change this squad. The players arent good enough and that is fact. Craig Bellamy wouldnt change the tide here.
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