Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
walter wall wrote:Don't forget SL own Bradfords lease, so may be in their interest for them to be in SL
After what happened with licensing last time, I definitely can’t dismiss the premise underlying that reminder!
It should though be much more difficult to ‘interpret’ or ‘adjust’ the results under this system. In theory.
Tbf, it killed the old system last time… the shocking thing was that they didn’t seem to realise it inevitably would. And some things have changed since then in the wider sporting consciousness since then, but that’s a tangent.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
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number 6 wrote::lol: still baffles me how IMG came to the conclusion clubs get nothing regards bringing players through their system, yet get a few dodgy burger vans and you get points!
Was cool to watch them go out in the semi's but a part of me would have enjoyed watching them get dicked again at Wembley tomorrow.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
number 6 wrote::lol: still baffles me how IMG came to the conclusion clubs get nothing regards bringing players through their system, yet get a few dodgy burger vans and you get points!
The reward for bringing players through your system is the players you bring through your system.
IMG’s role and incentives are around raising revenue.
If additional incentives (or a better system) are needed for developing young players, that’s an RFL responsibility.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Mild Rover wrote:The reward for bringing players through your system is the players you bring through your system.
IMG’s role and incentives are around raising revenue.
If additional incentives (or a better system) are needed for developing young players, that’s an RFL responsibility.
not much reward for teams like Londonn is there? bring their own through the system then watch them get picked off one by one by the northern clubs, i will include the likes of Saints and Wigan in that too!
London will continue to struggle with IMG gradings as long as their catchment area only counts as the borough their stadium is in, rather than the whole of London. Id like to see York in super league some day too, but realise they're a bit of a way off currently.
I wonder if Hudds will ever be at risk of super league status under IMG, thier crowds are consistently low and if/when Ken Davy stops backing them, can they continue to survive as a top flight club?
Toulouse are the only championship club with a TV deal, be interesting to see if that gives them any weighting for the scores later in the year
Also, people moan about IMGs perceived lack of effort, a bit of their work on show here
London will continue to struggle with IMG gradings as long as their catchment area only counts as the borough their stadium is in, rather than the whole of London. Id like to see York in super league some day too, but realise they're a bit of a way off currently.
I wonder if Hudds will ever be at risk of super league status under IMG, thier crowds are consistently low and if/when Ken Davy stops backing them, can they continue to survive as a top flight club?
Toulouse are the only championship club with a TV deal, be interesting to see if that gives them any weighting for the scores later in the year
Also, people moan about IMGs perceived lack of effort, a bit of their work on show here
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
number 6 wrote:not much reward for teams like Londonn is there? bring their own through the system then watch them get picked off one by one by the northern clubs, i will include the likes of Saints and Wigan in that too!
I completely agree. It’s a badly broken system, in a number of ways. I just don’t think it’s something for IMG to fix. And the RL community loves it despite its flaws.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Derek's outburst is purely down to him genuinly worrying about being relegated himself in my opinion. Based on the provisional gradings posted previously Leigh are in 12th and face a real threat of being relegated. I don't think they will, as they will gain a few points based on league position, but I haven't seen much of what they're doing off-field to help boost their points. It may be a lot, it may be close to nothing, I have no idea. Wakey's grading will likely improve now their new stand is open and with the signings they've made must be confident they will secure a SL place, so I wouldn't be suprised to see them stay above Leigh. I've seen Cas have done a few easy wins with things such as seating and a big screen. Combined with new investment will probably be a boost to their financial grading. Wakefield also seem to be improving Derek probably wants London to finish 11th because they're down anyway, then trying to (ridiculously) guilt Hull into taking voluntary relegation after finishing bottom (which is laughable he even made that suggestion) so that it leaves 2 spaces in SL and gives Leigh a better chance of staying there.
I went through a period of liking Beaumont last year, he really grew on me, now he's going back to his attention seeking rants I'm starting to look forward to the prospect of Leigh back in the championship.
Anyway, look forward to Cokey ripping my post apart.
Hope this isn't true, but, if it's linked with the stories last week about some clubs wanting to kick Catalan out of SL, it shows the small mindedness of many club owners. We can't chop and change yet again, need to give the IMG structure time to bed in. Without IMG, would every game have been on TV? would Cas have actually made improvements to their ground? Would we have had time to do a proper rebuild? Or would we just be having a mad panic signing whichever journeyman Aussie we could?
In my opinion, the game can't grow much more in northern in England, we need to stick with IMG and let them grow the game and generate new commercial opportunities. Clubs were struggling pre IMG, hence why they were brought in, what do these chairmen think will happen if we scrap IMGs plans? Catalan get kicked out, Bradford or Widnes get promoted and bring a few hundred more away fans to game than Catalan do and that'll solve the club's financial problems? No, if we get rid of IMG, the game will become more insular and continue to fade into insignificance
Hope this isn't true, but, if it's linked with the stories last week about some clubs wanting to kick Catalan out of SL, it shows the small mindedness of many club owners. We can't chop and change yet again, need to give the IMG structure time to bed in. Without IMG, would every game have been on TV? would Cas have actually made improvements to their ground? Would we have had time to do a proper rebuild? Or would we just be having a mad panic signing whichever journeyman Aussie we could?
In my opinion, the game can't grow much more in northern in England, we need to stick with IMG and let them grow the game and generate new commercial opportunities. Clubs were struggling pre IMG, hence why they were brought in, what do these chairmen think will happen if we scrap IMGs plans? Catalan get kicked out, Bradford or Widnes get promoted and bring a few hundred more away fans to game than Catalan do and that'll solve the club's financial problems? No, if we get rid of IMG, the game will become more insular and continue to fade into insignificance
we don't know what's going on behind the scenes so hard to comment but losing the french would be a big mistake for me. Some of these clubs obviously rely on away support. I wonder what they would do with the numbers that travel over to both Hull clubs
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