IR80 wrote:Wilf would never openly criticise unless someone was seriously out of their depth, I suspect he agrees that Lee could use some assistance in certain areas, but Wilf, I am certain, will keep his cou sel on what he thinks, at least for the time being.

The Dentist Wilf wrote:I don't usually comment because I get myself into all sorts of trouble but this is a really interesting discussion

Can I just say that its very flattering that you quote the Diary and thanks as always to everyone for supporting it but in the end it is only one fans view and often wide of the mark as Rovers fans regularly point out, what's more its usually written straight after the game so the views are pretty raw.

However even now on reflection I have to admit that after the last two games I do feel let down by the players. It's not about skill or ability but about effort and demeanour and it has to be their responsibility to realise and interpret by their actions the importance of such games as these last two were. If it looks to us lot like they can't be arsed however much they protest that they can, there has to be an element of truth in it, because in sport actions speak louder than words.

I don't think that anyone can say that isn't true for they have to at least appear as enthusiastic as we all are! However, and its a big however, when I said this week ……...

Our players have let us down in the last two games and however you try and dress that up, it’s a fact!! Mentally they are just not at the races and although I always shy away from Coach bashing I’m sure Lee himself realizes that the mental state that the players enter the field in, has to be down to their preparation and understanding of the situation. They look as if they don’t care and once the crazy desperate stuff starts with the ball in their quarter, no one seems capable of steadying it down. although I’m sure they do care, as I have often said it all seems a bit too cosy and comfortable for some of them at our club at present.

Then its a corporate responsibility and I think I'm trying to say that in my opinion if they are ill prepared mentally and don't appear to us to want it enough or even as much as we do in such critical situations, then their preparation and mental coaching is not working and if that is going wrong and some do appear too comfortable at times with their status in the team, then it is down to the Coaching staff to make sure that isn't happening. Skills training is all fine but mental preparation is so important as I think we saw with Huddersfield this week.

I don't want to get into long diatribes about the Diary because it is just an opinion and as I say just my thoughts as an ordinary long suffering fan.

That's my two penneth anyway and you know You can usually detect the mood in camp by what comes out and what you hear and I think I quite fancy us on Thursday now!

Jake the Peg wrote:So to sum things up:

Radford was solely responsible for the 2 cup wins

The players are at fault for all of the poor performances

Radford has admitted he doesn't know what to do about the poor performances (but they're not his fault)

The rubbish players are leaving (although most of those playing on Friday will be here next year which is a worry if they don't do what radford tells them to all week)

Even though we have one of the worst defences in sl and a bang average (at best) attack, none of that is down to the coach, purely the attitude of the players



The coach has no bearing on match day attitude and performance

Does that sum it up?

Jake the Peg wrote:This made me laugh on the hdmi Hull FC q&a today

FCMonkey1982: Why do some players show more energy and passion after the game collecting Haribos and offering spectators down to fight than they did during the match?

hull2524 wrote:We have a thread on radford . Can't we at least just have the one and all the radford bashing can stay on there ?

IR80 wrote:it's a discussion forum, nobody is "bashing" Lee, you may be quite happy, many are not.