Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Really??? That happened after the 2016 CC final. Not sure of any other occasion when that was the case.
If you don't thing playing in a semi and having to bring the ball out from near your own line for the majority of the game against a high line speed defence isn't intense, then I would ask you to describe what is?
My theory is RL practice. Usually its a relatively even playing field as both teams usually have a similar turn around (6/7 days).
The point you have not recognised is that Wigan have just about three times the turn around time.
Teams often complain the week off is actually a inconvenience. Anyway it’s only my opinion, but I’ll be disappointed if we can’t put an effort in Thursday night.
MorningGlory23 wrote:Benefit of the doubt not required thank you, although I have thought about it and I stick by my original post, for 2 reasons, 1 been having watched the game back on tv, it really wasn’t that intense, 2 we lost, majority of poor performances after been in a so called energy, mental zapping game, Is from been on the booze a couple of days celebrating. If your theory was correct, surely no team would be able to string a few quality performances together in a row
It really wasn't that intense? That's rubbish. It was intense enough to require recovery time. It was a hell of a lot more intense than anything Wigan will need to recover from.
Check out the stats for CCF and CCSF games. Teams tend to struggle to back up (unless it was a blow out). You can have all the opinions on the world, but they don't appear to be backed up.
The fact that Wigan have had a good rest and we're having to back up in a shorter than normal turnaround will be a big factor.
Wellsy13 wrote:It really wasn't that intense? That's rubbish. It was intense enough to require recovery time. It was a hell of a lot more intense than anything Wigan will need to recover from.
Check out the stats for CCF and CCSF games. Teams tend to struggle to back up (unless it was a blow out). You can have all the opinions on the world, but they don't appear to be backed up.
The fact that Wigan have had a good rest and we're having to back up in a shorter than normal turnaround will be a big factor.
Why is it rubbish , we didn’t play that well, Warrington’s intensity was much higher than ours , we did well to stay in the game. Our intensity in defence was poor. I guess we’ll see Thursday night, but I reckon we will and should go ok
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MorningGlory23 wrote:Teams often complain the week off is actually a inconvenience. Anyway it’s only my opinion, but I’ll be disappointed if we can’t put an effort in Thursday night.
I have no doubt they will put the effort in, but when Wigan appear to be much fresher in the last quarter, I anticipate we will make a lot of errors and be out of position due to being knackered.
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I have no doubt they will put the effort in, but when Wigan appear to be much fresher in the last quarter, I anticipate we will make a lot of errors and be out of position due to being knackered.
Well we best make sure we are 20 in front going into the last quarter, against a poor but fresher Wigan team at home
Wellsy13 wrote:I don't understand how people "don't buy" the fatigue claim? It's shown time and time again to be a factor following big games. How much more proof do you need?
That semi will have been physically draining. Players will not have fully recovered from their efforts. It will also have been mentally draining as emotions were high and it was a close game. All of those factors will come into play on Thursday. Those 1%ers matter against to teams.
Unless Wigan have a shocker, I just can't see us having enough in the tank to win. I hope I'm wrong.
Your are right Hull will lose heavily to Wigan and Warrington will get beaten at Catalan
Superbowl Scott wrote:It’d be interesting to see how many times the same 17 players backed up a 5 day turn around for Saints and won both games.
Saints play a different style to us They use the ball more across the backline to create the space rather than just cart the ball up the middle for 5 tackles. This has two effects much less work for their forwards move the opposition around a lot more draining energy
similar style to how Castleford played when they were runaway league winners
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I have no doubt they will put the effort in, but when Wigan appear to be much fresher in the last quarter, I anticipate we will make a lot of errors and be out of position due to being knackered.
Thats why to me it would seem stupid of the coach not to use Hadley,Green and Litten and possibly give one of the fringe props like Brown a run. I would have Hadley at loose forward for Westerman who is just going through the motions at the moment and a good time to give Danny Houghton a break. I guess Masi is not match fit but whats happening with Levy and Bienek?
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