Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:26 pm
Armavinit
International Star
Joined: May 24 2011 Posts: 2481
hansoloishere wrote:I’m still on the fence and the complacency and lack of effort in some games is more than worrying, and while effort levels is down to the players, it’s the responsibility of the coach to find performances like that at the Magic weekend unacceptable. The consensus with the current coach seems that we just move on to the next game and hope we play better with a shrug of the shoulders. Watching the transformation of the team we should not mention under Tony Smith just shows you what a decent coach can do. Too often we look like we can’t be bothered and the effort and intensity just isn’t there, then in the next breath we look like the best team in the competition, the mind boggles to what’s going on Potentially we could do the double but equally we could not make the playoffs and then get smashed by 60 by Warrington Are we winning games because we have a very decent and capable squad or are we winning because we have a great coach?? The one thing I do like about Lee is his honesty, but I feel that if he is stating on as coach he needs help with some sort of attacking coach
If Ian Watson, became available (maybe peed off at constantly building teams and having them cherrypicked) and he was prepared to work with Lee, do you think it would be a good option?
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:16 pm
Dave K.
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25911 Location: Back in Hull.
hansoloishere wrote:I’m still on the fence and the complacency and lack of effort in some games is more than worrying, and while effort levels is down to the players, it’s the responsibility of the coach to find performances like that at the Magic weekend unacceptable. The consensus with the current coach seems that we just move on to the next game and hope we play better with a shrug of the shoulders. Watching the transformation of the team we should not mention under Tony Smith just shows you what a decent coach can do. Too often we look like we can’t be bothered and the effort and intensity just isn’t there, then in the next breath we look like the best team in the competition, the mind boggles to what’s going on Potentially we could do the double but equally we could not make the playoffs and then get smashed by 60 by Warrington Are we winning games because we have a very decent and capable squad or are we winning because we have a great coach?? The one thing I do like about Lee is his honesty, but I feel that if he is stating on as coach he needs help with some sort of attacking coach
I'd wait until more than 5 games, 2 of which have been a massive defeat and loss to the bottom team before hailing Smith. Could possible be new coach syndrome, plus he has been backed by NH with new signings.
I'm sure what Radford says to the media is different to what he does behind the scenes. We still have mental weakness, but we are a much improved team from last season and the start of the season.
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:42 pm
hansoloishere
International Star
Joined: Jul 17 2012 Posts: 285
IMO our squad is one of the best in SL and much stronger than Rovers, on the couple of games I’ve watched them they play a very open and expansive game that wasn’t there under Sheens. Could Lee go to a team like Rovers or Wakefield and turn them into a good team? Radford has one of the best squads that for me under performs as much as we play well, but telling him is job is safe while AP is in charge to me sends the wrong message I’m happy that he stays on and tbf he is building a very strong team for next year, but as a fan I want my team to play with pride and passion in the shirt, something that seems to be lacking in some games
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:51 pm
Dave K.
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25911 Location: Back in Hull.
Some people need to watch the interview, he never said he would never let Radford go, he said he couldn't see envisage Lee not being the coach, if we underperform long term he will go IMO.
So far Smith has been pretty successful at two super Rich clubs, Agar improved us when he temporarily took over after Kear, let's wait until next season to see how good Smith is.
We are probably operating at the 5th highest salary behind Saints, Leeds, Warrington and Wigan.
I think we are going pretty well with our squad, particularly our pack,most people including our own fans doing expect is to be sat 3rd and in the Semi.
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:29 am
Punos
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 18 2009 Posts: 1301
I like Radford, think he has done okay as coach but I am not sure I would have given that statement, saying that as a coach you can plan for the future knowing that you will not get the bullet after a losing streak when you are building the team.
Time will tell, I am still suprised we are in 3rd place when I thought before season started we would struggle for top 5, we are in 3rd without playing at our best well maybe the odd 30 min spell here and there.
End of season playoff will be the time to step up and play 80 mins.
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:28 am
Tarquin Fuego
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 03 2004 Posts: 3732 Location: United Kingdom
There are just too many black marks on LRs report as a coach The lows out weigh the highs in number Don’t forget we were all but relegated under LR and it was only Bulls financial shenanigans that saved us Just way too inconsistent with some amazing flashes of sheer brilliance
Post subject: Re: Radford contract extension-AP latest
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:42 am
Mild mannered Janitor
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 7735 Location: Here there and everywhere
Tarquin Fuego wrote:There are just too many black marks on LRs report as a coach The lows out weigh the highs in number Don’t forget we were all but relegated under LR and it was only Bulls financial shenanigans that saved us Just way too inconsistent with some amazing flashes of sheer brilliance
The beer must be very strong where you live.
2014 - London and Bradford relegated. Even with the 6 points deducted added back, they would still have been 6 points from what Hull ended up on. Oh, and that Wakefield finished 3rd bottom.
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