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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:47 pm 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:You mean the predictable kick to the wing every time? Houghton has a better (less predictable) kicking game than Sneyd. If Sneyd didn't kick goals he wouldn't be in, I hate to agree with Gary Schofield but, imho, he's right about Sneyd.


You are having a laugh if you think Houghton has a better kicking game, Sneyd can put it on a sixpence the only kicking Jake does is last tackle boots upfield I can't recall a try coming off a kick from him or a 40/20 ( I ain't seen away games apart from TV so if I'm wrong I'll stand corrected )

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:20 pm 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:You mean the predictable kick to the wing every time? Houghton has a better (less predictable) kicking game than Sneyd. If Sneyd didn't kick goals he wouldn't be in, I hate to agree with Gary Schofield but, imho, he's right about Sneyd.


You either,

You do not attend

You go for a wee frequently and miss a lot of the game

Or simply do not like Sneyd

?

From Fridat alone, I am thinking you missed the rubber which Houghton should have been given a try for (pulled back for a penalty for us)

The countless long kicks which split the defenders

The frequent 40/20s






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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:34 pm 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:You either,

You do not attend

You go for a wee frequently and miss a lot of the game

Or simply do not like Sneyd

?

From Fridat alone, I am thinking you missed the rubber which Houghton should have been given a try for (pulled back for a penalty for us)

The countless long kicks which split the defenders

The frequent 40/20s

Oh I attend, and I don't dislike Sneyd, just of the opinion that Connor/Kelly is a better partnership. Hope Sneyd proves me wrong at Doncaster. (be intrigued how many 40/20's class as frequent)

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:25 pm 
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Could it be that Sneyd has looked bang average all season and a lot of last season not all down to him no engaging the defence. But that we lack even one option (don't like the term dummy runner), they just wait for the pass to be given by him, that it's not all down to Sneyd. Look at Fridays game, we were complete garbage in attack. We didn't seem to have any set plays barring one from a scrum that looked good but was slow and didn't gain us any decent metres.
The one thing that did annoy me with Sneyd was after the first two or three failed kicks to our right side, why did he think it was a good idea to keep trying this for another two attempts?






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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:31 pm 
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Fields of Fire wrote:You are having a laugh if you think Houghton has a better kicking game, Sneyd can put it on a sixpence the only kicking Jake does is last tackle boots upfield I can't recall a try coming off a kick from him or a 40/20 ( I ain't seen away games apart from TV so if I'm wrong I'll stand corrected )


Connor kick to the corner try away at Salford is 1 comparing how many times he's played in the halfs.
Houghton is not a better kicker I agree.

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:27 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:Could it be that Sneyd has looked bang average all season and a lot of last season not all down to him no engaging the defence. But that we lack even one option (don't like the term dummy runner), they just wait for the pass to be given by him, that it's not all down to Sneyd. Look at Fridays game, we were complete garbage in attack. We didn't seem to have any set plays barring one from a scrum that looked good but was slow and didn't gain us any decent metres.
The one thing that did annoy me with Sneyd was after the first two or three failed kicks to our right side, why did he think it was a good idea to keep trying this for another two attempts?

Agree, add that our forwards rarely hit the line at full pelt, not all Sneyd's fault. The last 4 games we've lacked direction and leadership in attack.

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:30 pm 
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I think people are getting a liitle over excited by the kelly/connor partnership in my opinion, certainly wasn't as stand out as some are making out, the cc is the only one that stands out for me, if the team is playing well and snyed is still playing poor, thats when id give the connor/kelly combo an extended run. But no way as our poor attack been solely down to snyed these last few games

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:37 pm 
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really cannot understand why people are on sneyds back.. yes he may have a poor game now and again, who doesn't? im a big fan of connor he is great cover for when sneyd or kelly aren't available, but IMO kelly and sneyd start.

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:47 pm 
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This is brilliant to be having a discussion about ours best 2 half-backs out of 3 above average options. 10 years battling to Keep our 1 half on field to give us a chance of competing?

Is a dream situation. 2 mavericks and a structured organiser with a world class short kicking and conversion game. Sneyd just still gets the nod but unlike last year connor right on his tail so he had got to get back to 90% at semi to stay in.

I have a feeling we ate going to turn up this weekend and actually play to potential with 80% complétion levels whoch will mean rhinos will finally get their arses spanked by us.

I was so close to booking a flight over couple of days fou semi but saving trip for finals

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 Post subject: Re: Kelly/Sneyd or Kelly/Connor?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:18 am 
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yep happy to say got that right...... we turned up and leeds got spanked. top errors free performance at 80%plus completion with moments of magic from kelly and sneyd top level.... just one unnecessary bullet pass to tally blew try.

pack well on top and if we play at that level in final can t see wigan or salford having a hope !

annual trips to wembley on cards.

how long can radders be a massively successful coach of a top 4 club ?... still some improvement to come and needs to find replacement for ellis and mini but the future is very bright.

booking flights for wembley

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