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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:40 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:I think it's a good time to panic, without Kelly we would be in the bottom 4 IMO


But we've got Kelly






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 Post subject: Re: Middle 8s
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:40 pm 
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I've said on here before that we seem to have mentally 'checked out'
since the CC win
Cue on the rack
Whatever you want to call it
Our Defence is in the last 6 weeks is the worst in the league surely
Defence says all you need to know about any team

We need a catalyst - anything - something

Who or what will provide it ?






I have lost interest

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 Post subject: Re: Middle 8s
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:41 pm 
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cert gone of the boil






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 Post subject: Re: Middle 8s
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:43 pm 
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oooh Gravy! wrote:Bit on the dramatic side this thread. We had two shocking results a month ago and turned it around. The league is unpredictable, wins come from unlikely places, just ask Leigh.


If i'd posted this thread the cuddle crews keyboards would be clattering away in condemnation!

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 Post subject: Re: Middle 8s
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:50 pm 
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oooh Gravy! wrote:But we've got Kelly


And still losing, he can't do it on his own, which he nearly need tonigh, been watched more and we seem to have no plan B.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:52 pm 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:I've said on here before that we seem to have mentally 'checked out'
since the CC win
Cue on the rack
Whatever you want to call it
Our Defence is in the last 6 weeks is the worst in the league surely
Defence says all you need to know about any team

We need a catalyst - anything - something

Who or what will provide it ?


I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:56 pm 
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UllFC wrote:I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.


I think a spell without Sneyd will do us good, kicking has been off (probably the injury) and his passing has been awful.

At the moment Connor and Kelly will offer more threat and hopefully they will play together on Monday.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:59 pm 
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Given our rubbish home form maybe fifth would be better than fourth at the split.

Currently W4 L4 at home, W5 D1 L0 away (not counting the neutral Magic fixture). In fact since the start of 2016 we have a home record of W13 L10 and an away record of W15 D1 L4. Quite astonishing really.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:02 pm 
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I don't know about a plan B,a plan A would help.Felt sorry for young Rawsthorne tonight,no help from his inside player,get Yeaman back






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UllFC wrote:I think its more a combination of more injuries (and players playing half-fit to cover) and losing Talanoa and Fonua with no big wingers as backup completely alters our style as Radford likes them to drive the ball up like two addtional props.

Still a few players not delivering though, Griffin has been a very poor signing, cant tackle, not that quick, but isnt full of flair either. A big step down on Yeaman in his prime and even Yeaman in his return to form last season.

Sneyd isnt playing well, when we need him to control a game. I have started to agree with Schofield that he doesnt take the line on enough, just passes a good 5 meters from the line and doesnt draw the defender in.

Still time to get out of this rut though, but as we learnt in 2015 even just scraping in to 8th isnt great as you end up with a dead rubber summer of pointless games.


I certainly don't agree with the injuries excuse.
Injuries should not affect the mental state and tempo of a team.
Wigan for example love them or loathe them, regardless of the personnel on the field will always play an aggressive up tempo style of rugby.
They may lose but mental attitude remains unaffected.
That comes from the guy at the top.

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