Not too far off but Ellis had played about half a dozen more games by round eight of his second season than Campese has.

Ellis played exactly half of our 34 games in 2013 but went on to miss only four of 28 in 2014.

My point being he may go on to be injury free from now on (unlikely I know). My post was more a dig at smallears jibes about professionalism and bad signings, Ellis looked a pretty poor signing after his first warm up for Hull but as I stated earlier he is fantastic player when fit.

I hope Campese has a long injury free run, he's a top bloke.

Back to Ellis - vital player for us, unquestionably worth another deal.

I'd give him a 5 year deal, 1 definitely playing with an option on both sides for 1 more and then a move to the coaching staff. Last and Horne need to have been moved on by then. Last has been here how long and achieved what?

Well you sound like a barrel of laughs East Cost, going by your first few posts. Welcome to the forum

Thanks for the welcome, not here to entertain (or insult) just an opinion. I think Ellis will make his own judgement on how long his body can take the hits, but he would be valuable as a part of the coaching team once he does decide enough is enough, I just think as a club we spend money on players but not coaches, IF Tony Smith ends up at Rovers (which I doubt, but am wary that I may be wrong) then we've missed a HUGE opportunity to get a world class D.O.R in to help Lee. Interesting how we've heard nothing of Motu so far this season?

Horne needs to be moved on? Explain your thinking on that? I'm just curious as to how you come to that thinking given he's had a year last yr coaching 19s who played great stuff. Isn't even done 2 years yet and has done a lot of learning already regarding coaching! I know he's been around the country checking out other sporting clubs meeting coaches spending time in their facilities seeing how they do things etc

you "know" which means you are another club mole. People lauded him as a player when he was bang average (at best), we cannot cling to (perceived) past glory, Cooke made Horne look a world beater, that is why he played on the wing for GB.

Maybe I need to go to specsavers and get some rose tinted glasses?

Yes, he's a nice guy, but he's a juniors coach and would be much better off at Dockers or similar, similarly Last.

Stupid talk. Cooke made outside backs look good. Horne made Horne look good. Others too. Briscoe must've scored 50%of his tries off Hornes shoulder
Played wing as a very young kid. In 1 series.
I'm a club mole. Mmmn so you sound like you're not in any way. So the rationale for binning a young coaching staff member without any knowledge of his abilities or how he's thought of amongst the group - both coaches and players is again - stupid talk. Outright thick even.

Insult all you want, I wont rise to it (it's also against the AUP, but you seem be to immune)

I say as I see, that is all, I wouldn't give him or Last a job coaching.