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 Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:19 am 
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weaver93 wrote:frepneyboy, was posting his opinion on this matter.

If you dont agree, fine - but,is there any need to post content
which personally insults & berates fellow posters?

Constructive criticsm is fine, but personal criticism is not acceptable -IMO.


I take your point, but I find it very difficult to be constructive to a poster who constantly writes absolute nonsense.






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 Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:I take your point, but I find it very difficult to be constructive to a poster who constantly writes absolute nonsense.

dont chomp then, take a chill pill.

Sometimes i find it impossible to read some of the guff here. But its peoples opinions.

Before the internet we'd be stood at rugby or in a pub, all having the same discussions, and guess what, not everyone would have the same opinion on everything.

Lets not get personal eh






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 Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:I take your point, but I find it very difficult to be constructive to a poster who constantly writes absolute nonsense.


Absolute nonsense... in your opinion.

Some might agree, some may not...

Might help to have a constructed discussion, instead of castigating... -IMO

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
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As a cas fan I'm on the fence with ben crooks.
Yes he as potential, he's still very young and with a coach like daryl powell working with him I'm sure the lad will improve, as did snyed under powell.

Just wondering about the registration fc hold.
Lets say no one will pay a fee for him, does that mean fc have to pay his wages for the remaining year of his contract, even if the lad never plays......sure it wont come to that.
So the club buying or paying a transfer fee for crooks could hold the cards in negotiations.
If fc want rid then they may have to accept a lower transfer fee or pay his wages.

Just a thought.






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 Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
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Depends on the opinion, doesn't it.

If an opinion has a foundation of ignorance and is absent of any facts, especially when it's come from someone who has previous form for displaying their close-minded attitude, then it's pretty difficult to be constructive about, or enter into any proper discussion.






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Given that Radford does not rate him and was happy for him to leave in the first place did anyone seriously think he would be coming back to Hull?






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poppys mum wrote:As a cas fan I'm on the fence with ben crooks.
Yes he as potential, he's still very young and with a coach like daryl powell working with him I'm sure the lad will improve, as did snyed under powell.

Just wondering about the registration fc hold.
Lets say no one will pay a fee for him, does that mean fc have to pay his wages for the remaining year of his contract, even if the lad never plays......sure it wont come to that.
So the club buying or paying a transfer fee for crooks could hold the cards in negotiations.
If fc want rid then they may have to accept a lower transfer fee or pay his wages.

Just a thought.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt FC are paying his salary, as his contract would be ceased,moving to NRL, the only thing would be a nominal fee for his registration.

Regarding Ben,a great natural player, but it looks as if his mentality maybe a problem, as he is currently not selected for Parra's feeder team,and Magpies are bottom of the league.

I heard, he has a hip/groin problem, which inhibits his natural growth ...

IF Powell can improve him, he has heaps of potential. -IMO

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poppys mum wrote:As a cas fan I'm on the fence with ben crooks.
Yes he as potential, he's still very young and with a coach like daryl powell working with him I'm sure the lad will improve, as did snyed under powell.

Just wondering about the registration fc hold.
Lets say no one will pay a fee for him, does that mean fc have to pay his wages for the remaining year of his contract, even if the lad never plays......sure it wont come to that.
So the club buying or paying a transfer fee for crooks could hold the cards in negotiations.
If fc want rid then they may have to accept a lower transfer fee or pay his wages.

Just a thought.


FC paying Crooks will depend on the contract, rather than the registration. So if Crooks was released from his contract, he therefore stops getting paid by Hull.

(I think) Hull FC have retained his SL registration until then end of the originally contracted period (2016?). Although, the RFL rules state that a player if not contracted, can ask the RFL to remove them from the register.

Compensation-wise, I think as he's 22 the compensation period has expired (if he was released, which I'm not sure whether he definitely was or not).






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weaver93 wrote:
I heard, he has a hip/groin problem, which inhibits his natural growth ...



Not sure on that, ben Is 6' 3''
I do know he had problems with his stomach when a kid and had a operation to rectify the problem.
Never heard about the hip/groin problems.






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I thought it was turnstilitis in his upper body and arms.

I don't think it was a growth problem anyway. He got too big for his boots in just a few months.

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