if wires lose to rovers there could get dragged in to the 8th spot fight imo

Its so difficult to call any games atm, I think provided you don't pick up any key injuries to either Ellis or Pryce in th enext 2 Leeds games then you'll walk into the 8. We need to turn over wire to have any chance of making it even then the likelihood of us being fit enough to beat salford off the back of the cup is low.

I think Wakey will win another game this season and no doubt they'll see their game against you off the back of a short turn around as one to target.

I think this bottom split has made the 'normal' season a lot better, not sure how it'll shape up for the top 8, will depend on how far away a team in 7 or 8 are away from 4th in the run up. The middle 8's will be tense and exciting, just rather not be in them.

Wakey are a very poor side who have won only twice this season and if we don't win both our matches against them we don't deserve to make the 8.

They also have a new coach joining who I would expect to make them more of a competitive side. Although consigned to the middle 8 I expect he will want them to start building some form for when the middle 8's start.

They may well be more competitive but we are supposed to be improving too and I will still be very disappointed if we don't beat them twice. If we have any ambition we should be putting teams like them to bed. We have some tough matches coming up and really need to win these two.

No one disputes that but with a new coach and some new players they'll be a tougher ask. Don't forget they won at cas and bummed the dobbins in their first 2 games

And they've gone downhill since their first two games. Sure they can only improve and I wish we'd played them twice already and had the points in the bag but our two matches against them really are must win games if we want to make the 8.

I know and I agree but the games aren't the gimme that some seem to believe they are

They are games we should be winning I agree, i was pointing out that I don't think they will be the walkover people are expecting.

I think this is the major flaw in the new system. Highly likely that the teams in 7th / 8th will have no chance of making the top four. Would have been better to have retained the 8 team play off series.