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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:23 pm 
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Locko's Luck wrote:It does begin to grate after a while though. We have to face up to the fact that we are not a top team. (At this moment in time)

Given the start we had, if it had been the other way round, some people on here would be out buying socks by the dozen.

If you support Hull Fc, you learn to take the rough with the smooth.

And, compared to last season things are kinda smooth right now.

I'm not denying there's been a bit of an overreaction to the Quins game - I was guilty of it myself in the immediate aftermath. I think the explanation has been hit on by someone on another thread, though - last season is so fresh in the memory than anything that even hints of us falling back to those levels gets folk very worried very quickly. And the Quins game looked a LOT like last season TBH.

Add the whole Crocker saga, Lauiki still not here, and a tough set of games over Easter...

It's hardly surprising that there's some panic in the air.






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Kosh wrote:I'm not denying there's been a bit of an overreaction to the Quins game - I was guilty of it myself in the immediate aftermath. I think the explanation has been hit on by someone on another thread, though - last season is so fresh in the memory than anything that even hints of us falling back to those levels gets folk very worried very quickly. And the Quins game looked a LOT like last season TBH.

Add the whole Crocker saga, Lauiki still not here, and a tough set of games over Easter...

It's hardly surprising that there's some panic in the air.


It cannot be that bad! There's no sign of the dreaded 'Panic button'............




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Locko's Luck wrote:It cannot be that bad! There's no sign of the dreaded 'Panic button'............




Yet. :lol:

You have no idea how close it came to making an appearance after Saturday. :lol:






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ExiledFromHull wrote:Big Dave

So the season we got to Grand Final with some frankly unconvincing, brutal, base level scraps but we still won....................you were unhappy?

Cos i doubt that very much.
The team will have peeks and troughs. Thats sport - and if as fans you cant realise that, then youre a bunch of blinkered idiots!

I tell you what........here's some persepctive.
You could be a Bulls or a Wolves fan!

Life is a lot worse when your heading in the wrong direction.

Amazingly...........AMAZINGLY..........(and this may come as a complete shock to some of you people).......but there are 13 other teams in this league doing their hardest too............if you think we're gonna have it our way, all the time.............youre sadly mistaken and need to go back to playing your silly computer games.

This is real life


Good post, we don't have any god given right to win games and just because we have won 5 in a row does not make us a top 3 team. We have started well especially hen you consider we have a new halfback combination which is tyring to gel and our major signing has yet to figure.

I don't like to see us losing games, especially ones we know we can win but it's going to happen.

The problem on here is we win a few games and expectations go through the roof, consequently we lose a few games and everyone is crap and the coach should be sacked.

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ExiledFromHull wrote:Does anyone remember last year?

Do you? The awful start? Injury problems? Poor results?

Do you remember saying Sharpe wasnt good enough?
Do you remember saying Kear wasnt good enough?
Do you remember saying McRae wasnt good enough?

So (and i say this as a Hull fan), we've had one of the best starts in our history. We've played some good rugby, we've played some crap. But still a good start.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM................!
Do you want FC to be the Harlem Globetrotters of Rugby?
Do you want FC to play entertaining Rugby all the bloody time?

Or do you want them to win? Because Hull havent got the types of player to set the game alight?
Hull are a workmanlike team, they grind down the oppo and grind out a win. Every coach has been dealt this hand and every coach has tailored the game plan and tactic to accomodate this.

You could of course be like Huddersfield, play expansive, daring Rugby and lose each week, run it on the 6th and hope.

Or you could be Hull.

Choice is yours - but as fans, you have to recognise the players we have, the type of game capable with these players, and more importantly, whether you want to be entertained, or win?
Just to add.......I'm (we're) Hull FC, we have been to hell and back with this club, we have been from dare I say....boring to ecstacy with this club, we have had tears of sadness and tears of abserlute joy with this club....We are THE BLACK AND WHITES & BLOODY PROUD OF IT. We will never be St Helens and nor would we want to be (as good as they have been) , But even better than that......WE AINT HULL KR!!!!!
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knocker norton wrote:Pretty much spot on! :thumb:

Apart from the part about playing silly computer games...nowt wrong with a bit of Football Manager 2009. :lol:


Do i know him, he seems to know me well!! :lol:

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PAUL M wrote:Good post, we don't have any god given right to win games and just because we have won 5 in a row does not make us a top 3 team. We have started well especially hen you consider we have a new halfback combination which is tyring to gel and our major signing has yet to figure.

I don't like to see us losing games, especially ones we know we can win but it's going to happen.

The problem on here is we win a few games and expectations go through the roof, consequently we lose a few games and everyone is crap and the coach should be sacked.


Totally misunderstanding where im coming from i think, as have a fair few on here. It would appear that having a critical opinion of how Hull FC is performing isnt permitted on here?

Perspective is we could be worse, but hey, perspective also is that we could and should be better, poor tactics have let us down. People can bury their heads all that they want but an big 3 or big 4 team would be 7 from 7 now looking at the fixtures we've had. I dont care where we were at this point last season and i dont care that we won a challenge cup in 2005, i care about our performances now and our inability to close out a game and play clinically.

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ExiledFromHull wrote:Does anyone remember last year?

Do you? The awful start? Injury problems? Poor results?

Do you remember saying Sharpe wasnt good enough?
Do you remember saying Kear wasnt good enough?
Do you remember saying McRae wasnt good enough?

So (and i say this as a Hull fan), we've had one of the best starts in our history. We've played some good rugby, we've played some crap. But still a good start.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM................!
Do you want FC to be the Harlem Globetrotters of Rugby?
Do you want FC to play entertaining Rugby all the bloody time?

Or do you want them to win? Because Hull havent got the types of player to set the game alight?
Hull are a workmanlike team, they grind down the oppo and grind out a win. Every coach has been dealt this hand and every coach has tailored the game plan and tactic to accomodate this.

You could of course be like Huddersfield, play expansive, daring Rugby and lose each week, run it on the 6th and hope.

Or you could be Hull.

Choice is yours - but as fans, you have to recognise the players we have, the type of game capable with these players, and more importantly, whether you want to be entertained, or win?


i think most peoples arguments is 'we are only as good as our last game' and that was poor. I am still very optimistic this season but there are a few changes that need to be made, and this is the place people discuss them.

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Big Dave T wrote:Totally misunderstanding where im coming from i think, as have a fair few on here. It would appear that having a critical opinion of how Hull FC is performing isnt permitted on here?

Perspective is we could be worse, but hey, perspective also is that we could and should be better, poor tactics have let us down. People can bury their heads all that they want but an big 3 or big 4 team would be 7 from 7 now looking at the fixtures we've had. I dont care where we were at this point last season and i dont care that we won a challenge cup in 2005, i care about our performances now and our inability to close out a game and play clinically.


I agree wholeheartedly about the comparisons to last season, it is completely irrelevant.

If we did not allow criticism of the side on here we would have no threads :)

My only problem is people seem to be going overboard on the coaches rather than the players. You yourself have said you are trying not to citicism the players yet the coaches seem to copping the flak for the last two defeats.

Its funny how people say our tactics have been bad for a number of games because all I read on here after we had won 5 in a row was positive comments. I posted in a few threads highlighting that whilst we were winning our levels of performance were not that great and we need more ball movement etc.

Our tactics have been limited and it needs to improve but that has to be down to the players aswell as the coaches.

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PAUL M wrote:I agree wholeheartedly about the comparisons to last season, it is completely irrelevant.

If we did not allow criticism of the side on here we would have no threads :)

My only problem is people seem to be going overboard on the coaches rather than the players. You yourself have said you are trying not to citicism the players yet the coaches seem to copping the flak for the last two defeats.

Its funny how people say our tactics have been bad for a number of games because all I read on here after we had won 5 in a row was positive comments. I posted in a few threads highlighting that whilst we were winning our levels of performance were not that great and we need more ball movement etc.

Our tactics have been limited and it needs to improve but that has to be down to the players aswell as the coaches.

interesting I thought there was more poeple having ago about the players too much... yeaman, g horne, thorman etc

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