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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:05 pm 
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Rugby Raider wrote:I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.

Think there was set figure plus percentage of gates after 7,500 plus the stadium got the fees from concessions. Cue Wilf (Pete). Not sure if the SMC still purchase 1000 passes :THINK:

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:52 pm 
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Ellam wrote:Wainhouse is supposed to be a freak and very talented.


Yeah, been putting effort in away from ground as well. He’s moved over to Hull very young and clubs been doing a lot to help him mature.

Think he just needs to have physical development that comes early 20’s. That’s the same for a lot of our youth. As talented as some of our fringe players just not physical enough yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:18 pm 
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Rugby Raider wrote:I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.


Exactly my point nobody truly knows, abit of transparancy is well.overdue

And appreciate the info on the younger lads, id read a few werw well thought of which is the ones ive listed. Just wonder if we l be youth orientated with promotions rather than senior signings. Sounds like most of those ive listed will maybe meed a loan before being blooded by us. So we may well see mainly new signings rather than a mixture as seen this season

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm 
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Rugby Raider wrote:I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.


That was what I remember from when we moved, and I seem to recall Hetherington/Rule using it as an excuse for not doing ticket deals as a bigger crowd didnt mean more income.

Details of the deal are confidential so Pearson can't openly tell us even if he wanted to. But at least we have someone who knows every clause as he signed it from the SMC side of the table.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:16 pm 
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Armavinit wrote:Think there was set figure plus percentage of gates after 7,500 plus the stadium got the fees from concessions. Cue Wilf (Pete). Not sure if the SMC still purchase 1000 passes :THINK:


Based upon the original deal, if still in place.

Assume average crowd is 12,500 (5k above the 7.5k base) and average admission is £20 (mix of adults, kids, concessions, offers)

Then 5,000 x £20 x 50% x 13 games = £650,000 per season to SMC, which sounds about right.

Not aware of any other fixed fee.

If this is correct, then as someone else said, the incremental benefit of extra fans is lower. For instance, reducing the Rovers away allocation would actually cost us £10k revenue per 1,000 tickets.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:38 pm 
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Ellam wrote:Wainhouse is supposed to be a freak and very talented.

Saw him in the academy a few times. He is explosive. You could close your eyes and tell when he makes a tackle or takes the ball in by the sound it makes.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:43 pm 
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Think Armstrong would have debuted by now if he was fit, still might at the end of the season.

Spoke to someone connected at the club, they rate Charles that highly he could be a regular next season.

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 Post subject: Re: Shopping list for 2025
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:48 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:Think Armstrong would have debuted by now if he was fit, still might at the end of the season.

Spoke to someone connected at the club, they rate Charles that highly he could be a regular next season.


I like the look of him, looks like he’s got a bit of a spark but him being a regular next year to me comes across as a cheap option.

Defensively doesn’t look ready to me and Wigan exploited that in the friendly. Although in his defence litten was defending at centre which probably exploited it more

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Hullrealist wrote:I like the look of him, looks like he’s got a bit of a spark but him being a regular next year to me comes across as a cheap option.

Defensively doesn’t look ready to me and Wigan exploited that in the friendly. Although in his defence litten was defending at centre which probably exploited it more


They wouldn't be putting him in now if they didn't think he was ready, particularly when there are more experienced options. Think we will sign a 7 to play with Trueman and Charles will be the main backup.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:25 pm 
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C for Cuckoo wrote:Saw him in the academy a few times. He is explosive. You could close your eyes and tell when he makes a tackle or takes the ball in by the sound it makes.


Sounds like an instant 4 game ban for him on debut then :)

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