carl_spackler wrote:Exactly right. Not claiming he's a world-beater, but he's come in and played well, and as you say we won every game. Dropping him for someone who has been underperforming for a while just sends out completely the wrong message.
Totally agree , Disappointed not to see Naughton .
Doc Brown wrote:I would drop any of the six or seven players regardless of whether he named names or not. If they don't put in the performance he expects of them as coach then they shouldn't play.
So who do you play, bearing in mind that Ellis, Westerman, Paea, Green, Bowden, Lancaster, Hadley, Logan and maybe others, aren't available?
Or, to put it another way, take away 7 players from "Abdull, Cunningham, Houghton, Howarth, Lineham, Michaels, Minichiello, Paleaaesina, Pryce, Rankin, Sa, Sneyd, Shaul, Talanoa, Thompson, Tyson-Wilson, Watts, Whiting, Yeaman" and fill in the gaps.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
What we seem to forgetting here is that the 6/7 players not pulling their weight was another one of Radford's made up excuses. So whether they should be dropped or not is irrelevant. They don't exist.
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ccs wrote:So who do you play, bearing in mind that Ellis, Westerman, Paea, Green, Bowden, Lancaster, Hadley, Logan and maybe others, aren't available?
Or, to put it another way, take away 7 players from "Abdull, Cunningham, Houghton, Howarth, Lineham, Michaels, Minichiello, Paleaaesina, Pryce, Rankin, Sa, Sneyd, Shaul, Talanoa, Thompson, Tyson-Wilson, Watts, Whiting, Yeaman" and fill in the gaps.
I'm not the coach and I do not know, nor pretend to know, who those six or seven players were. But in his own words he did say "We are not a good enough side that we can afford six or seven blokes to toss in a performance like that and expect to come away with a result." so he clearly felt that there were six or seven players that let him down. And yet they all appear to be in the team again.
However, if I did know who those players were then I would call up their equivalents from the U19s or any first team players fit but not in the squad (such as Naughton).
Doc Brown wrote:I'm not the coach and I do not know, nor pretend to know, who those six or seven players were. But in his own words he did say "We are not a good enough side that we can afford six or seven blokes to toss in a performance like that and expect to come away with a result." so he clearly felt that there were six or seven players that let him down. And yet they all appear to be in the team again.
However, if I did know who those players were then I would call up their equivalents from the U19s or any first team players fit but not in the squad (such as Naughton).
It all depends whether dropping 6 or 7 players (assuming Paea and Bowden weren't included) would still win the match against Salford. I would have my doubts.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
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ccs wrote:So who do you play, bearing in mind that Ellis, Westerman, Paea, Green, Bowden, Lancaster, Hadley, Logan and maybe others, aren't available?
Or, to put it another way, take away 7 players from "Abdull, Cunningham, Houghton, Howarth, Lineham, Michaels, Minichiello, Paleaaesina, Pryce, Rankin, Sa, Sneyd, Shaul, Talanoa, Thompson, Tyson-Wilson, Watts, Whiting, Yeaman" and fill in the gaps.
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The point isn't that he hasn't dropped all 6/7 players he alluded to, it's that he hasn't dropped any of them and the message that sends out. If he doesn't have the troops to drop them all, fair enough. But don't bleat on about your players letting you down if you're then not prepared to take action against any of them.
As well as Naughton, why not give Turgut another game? Might have made some errors when he's played, but he also did some good and how else will he learn or the coaching staff see if he improves in a match environment?
By my reckoning, we have options available to remove a player from any position on the pitch from last week's 17 should we wish to (albeit no replacement option at hooker, because we've been playing all 3), so if we don't remove anyone it's pure and simply choosing not to.
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