Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25777 Location: Back in Hull.
Chris71 wrote:If I am being honest Dave I don't think Gale is any better than Reynolds other than he offers place kicking. I think if anything yesterday showed that we are million miles away with Gale & Reynolds in the middle and keeping either beyond this season shouldn't even be a consideration. 1st half they were both ok but yet again when needed to step up they both failed to do anything. Credit to Wakey for playing the full 80mins but its another game were we did more to lose it than to win it. It looked to me as though we just tried to shut up shop after Connor went off then to hang on. The killer moment was when Gale through that awful pass in to touch past both Griffin and Swift, which Wakey capitalised on by scoring on the next set they had.
I am also wondering if Mau picked up and injury as that's the only reason I can think he was withdrawn during the 2nd half but doesn't seem to have been any mention of an injury to him?
It's tight, but think Gales offers slightly better kicking, better defence and discipline (on and off the field).
I wouldn't argue too much which one is dropped and would drop them both if Connor was fit, but wouldn't want to go with Litten, Lovodua and Hookem against Catalans away.
Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 8185 Location: Never never land away with the fairies
the cal train wrote:Highlights make for painful viewing. Their last try really is a pathetic attempt at defending.
Their second is a dubious call as McIntosh gathers it well and finds the floor, ball is clearly pulled out.
I thought the officiating by Griffiths was appalling, our first try was miles forward so how he awarded it is a mystery (though he then seemed to spend the rest of the game making up for it awarding restarts to Wakey) the one as you say Wakey scored where it looked at the time to have been stripped from McIntosh, I also think the one's both we and Wakey had disallowed for forward passes didn't look to be a lot wrong with. The final passage of play Wakeys pass was way forward leading to the drop goal by Miller.
We should have put that game to bed before halftime but we failed to be clinical enough and blew many opportunities to score in the first half which came back to bite us. I'm still not sure why in the first half after Gaskill left a kick and Fash got the ball and he passed to Lovodua why he didn't just dive to slide over the line to score rather than put the extra pass to Satae which gave Wakey time to muscle up and hold Satae up.
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
You finally think they have turned a corner, the performance vs Wigan, the first half yesterday, and then they bring you back down to reality with a nothing short of awful second half to cost us the game yesterday.
Try to refrain from singling out players after defeat (at the risk of looking fickle when we win) , but we had three senior, well experienced players in Houghton, Reynolds and Gale on the pitch and not one of them had the nads to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and get us over the line. You can look to the Connor injury as a turning point in the game, but for me it was throwing the ball into touch off the back of the scrum, all whilst we were on the ropes and holding onto a two try lead. Absolutely amateurish.
It should of never even had come to golden point, but when your forwards cart you 70 meters up the pitch after 4 tackles and put you in the perfect position for the drop goal, you have to deliver. Gale didn't, and Miller did.
We need a miracle for Connor's injury to not keep him out, 6-8 weeks is a typical lay off for medial damage, I don't see where our points come from without him in the side.
Joined: Feb 03 2004 Posts: 3699 Location: United Kingdom
We are total shoite under BH for too many matches. Coaches have always talked about the gap between the worst and best performances that they should be a small gap.
Our gap is as big as was under Lee Radford
We are not getting any better and if Wire were a normal team and Cas were then we would be about 7th again
We are shoite house just too many times and time for BH to go anytime soon
Joined: Mar 23 2018 Posts: 6674 Location: Kingston upon Hull
I couldn’t get to the game, but really disappointed at 18-6 for a long period, nobody had the brains to put a one pointer over when there was less pressure, I’d accept if we missed the target, but not taking this opportunity, and using obvious game management tactics, which ultimately would have won us this game is so naïve and dumb.
We have enough experience on the field Gale, Houghton, Connor, Reynolds etc, and if they are that stupid to not realise, then Hodgson could get the message across.
Well played Wakey, a desperately needed two points for them, incidentally one of their regular posters, said of the match referee, he’s the best ref he’d ever seen.
Riderofthepalehorse wrote:I couldn’t get to the game, but really disappointed at 18-6 for a long period, nobody had the brains to put a one pointer over when there was less pressure, I’d accept if we missed the target, but not taking this opportunity, and using obvious game management tactics, which ultimately would have won us this game is so naïve and dumb.
We have enough experience on the field Gale, Houghton, Connor, Reynolds etc, and if they are that stupid to not realise, then Hodgson could get the message across.
Well played Wakey, a desperately needed two points for them, incidentally one of their regular posters, said of the match referee, he’s the best ref he’d ever seen.
It was the same issue against Wigan away, had opportunities to put one over that we spurned. Lesson not learned clearly.
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