ive heard pearson is trying to get both remaining home games moved to Costello playing fields.might have a chance then.

I agree, but we are still in the hunt this year, I believe our pack is our main weakness and that's been addressed, I also think that these performances this year are bloomin awful, no excuses, but apart from saints the rest have been much the same, look at the posts earlier in the year a lot where saying we would be in a relegation battle, we are where we are because we just arnt good enough, although on our day we can trouble anyone, just that those days come along every 5/6 games lol, I still think we can finish 4th, but these awful performances need sorting, its just not good enough,

When people point the pack out as a weakness

What are your opinions on how we used Satae yesterday?

He was crying out for the ball, and we kept throwing it over or behind him, is it part of the game plan to just use two props and not pass to the others, found it really odd he got one pass in his first stint

At the end of the day no matter how you try and excuse or justify the performance last night it is and was simply inexcusable and unacceptable. Now you can say yes but we’re still in 4th blah blah blah but we can’t seriously think that a team that has the mental attitude to dish up a steaming turd performance with what was riding on it is going to achieve success, it’s dillusional.

I hope the club as a whole come out and apologise and state it’s unacceptable.
As for LR sounding miffed that Hull FC don’t get the credit they deserve well dishing up that crap is a bit self defeating and if you want plaudits you need to sort it out.

I really can’t understand why some seem to try and justify last nights performance.
The fact these performances are becoming a frequent thing should be a major concern and it seems it something that can not be solved by the current coaching team.

Whilst I am very much looking forward to the squad assembled for next season I also am now wondering if we will just see the same crappy efforts too? It’s ok saying the packs been the problem but that’s only a small part, it’s the basic skills that are lacking like holding a bl00dy ball for one thing, no desire to front up in defence from ptb, instead just standing and waiting losing the collision every ptb, just sticking a kick up in the air to the corners on just about every set, no real effort to put opposition under sustained pressure.

In all honesty & sadly I just don’t think LR & AL can take us much further unless they get help.

We don't share the work load well enough, just look at the stats from yesterday.

Thought Satae looked a handful, will need time to settle.

Not going to win anything i'd dread a final with Saints but we have to go down fighting in the last few games.

Totally agree dave, some players looked exhausted due to overuse, others barely touched the ball, i dont get it is it the game plan, is houghton told to continually use the same players, it needs changing

Agreed also and that’s my concern for next season that although recruitment fir next season has been good there is every chance we will still see much the same. As the issues do not seem to be getting looked at or rectified in the games. Our handling and speed of passing the ball is atrocious, the lack of desire to get in the faces of the opposition is another area that is seriously lacking as we lose so much ground then have to work harder get back up the field to be in with a chance near the oppositions line.

Nail on the head there Chris! And one of the reasons it continues to happen is that so many fans are as apathetic to it as the club, happy to drift along on a wave of mediocrity. There's little pressure from the fan base when so many lemmings chuck themselves off the cliff after each other. As I've already alluded to, attitude, commitment and desire from the players will always count for more to a lot of fans than where we are in the table or cup. You feel like it matters to them. It seems like this bunch don't give a toss so long as they are getting paid.

Which players have attitude problems?

After some of the drubbings we've had this season it would be easier to say who hasn't. I don't mean attitude as in having a strop. I mean professional attitude towards their job instead of the 'don't give a sh!t3' attitude we've seen so often this year.