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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:59 pm 
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Irregular Hoops wrote:FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.

To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............


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I wonder if the Hull Daily Mail will do a special "dont forget to cheer on the lads and sing till the end of the game" petition/charter/sign here/buy the paper like they did for City!






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Irregular Hoops wrote:FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.

To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............


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Jake the Peg wrote:Interesting that I'm a hypocrite for daring to criticise performances and the coach's reaction to fans yet you come on here almost daily and have a go at paul king. What's the definition of a hypocrite again?
I'm not twisting anything. The fact is that the performances from the players have been unacceptable for months. The fans have continued to turn up in droves, following them around the country because they love the club. IMO, the crowd reaction last night was very tame given the dross served up.

agar is paid to do a job of coaching the team, not passing comment on the fact he isn't happy that the fans are voicing their opinions of him and the players.

And perhaps you can give me some evidence of when a top class coach has turned us down because the fans have been critical of under par performances under previous coaches? Or maybe you can give your opinion on why tony smith took the wire job after seeing the way the fans reacted to cullen on SKY?

Don't be so naive. Coaches know that they will be critcised by fans if things aren't going right. It's part and parcel of the job. If he can't stand the heat he should stay out of the kitchen


At what point am I a hypocrit for not thinking King justifies his place, I have not changed that opinion for about 4 years now :wink:

As I mentioned, if you had previously come out and said it was wrong for the coach / club to comment on loyalty of fans and how appreciative the team / club has been in the past you would have a point. But you don't.

BTW, ever wondered why we are linked with quite a few big name aussies, yet very few big names ever turn up :wink:






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UllFC wrote:what a load of balls...last year the majority of the team played at Wembley in front of 80,000, live on terrestrial tv to a few million, and they didn't do a bad job of it.
why the hell would they be 'nervous' in front of the lowest crowd of the year, at home, in a game against the bottom side?

its a lazy excuse for how unproffesional and badly coached the side are


Crowd size has knack all to do with it. The players confidence is shot to ribbons. Any crowd getting negative would have a similar impact






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cod'ead wrote:Agar said:

"We are under-performing, but it is times like this when we need their help more than ever. Without doubt it has a detrimental effect on the team."

What would he like us to do, come down and take training for him?

The guy has obviously lost the dressing room, he's now lost most of the fan-base. It surely can't be long before the board realise this fact and demand some sort of action.

The simple thing would be to get Agar to fall on his sword, we then have the problem of a replacement. I have no doubt that the board would take the simple (and consequently cheap) way out and either promote Last or get Sharp to take the helm. Either option would be akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

It seems obvious that Bomber's "cancer" has not reacted to any treatment over the years; that is purely a board problem. Rule, Kath and anyone else on the board, have had the opportunity to change things, they chose to go with the flow.

Well, the flow has now determined that the septic tank has backed up, it's time to call the gulley-emptier in. They can start at the top because that is where poop floats


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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:At what point am I a hypocrit for not thinking King justifies his place, I have not changed that opinion for about 4 years now :wink:

As I mentioned, if you had previously come out and said it was wrong for the coach / club to comment on loyalty of fans and how appreciative the team / club has been in the past you would have a point. But you don't.


I said the coach shouldn't criticise the fans. End of. You can disagree all you want but he's shot himself in the foot with a large amount of the fan base. ergo it was the wrong thing to do both morally (given he's in charge of the dirge we've had to watch all season), and from any measure of a common sense action from an under fire coach. I am right

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:BTW, ever wondered why we are linked with quite a few big name aussies, yet very few big names ever turn up :wink:


Is it because we don't hand out brown paper bags full of cash every Friday?

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Jake the Peg wrote:I said the coach shouldn't criticise the fans. End of. You can disagree all you want but he's shot himself in the foot with a large amount of the fan base. ergo it was the wrong thing to do both morally (given he's in charge of the dirge we've had to watch all season), and from any measure of a common sense action from an under fire coach. I am right



Is it because we don't hand out brown paper bags full of cash every Friday?


Not saying he hasn't shot himself in the foot, just that he can voice his opinion.

I can actually remember Brian Smith muttering some discontent at the fans reaction to some thing at a game at Widnes (the game has previously been postponed at the last minute, when the rearranged match took place it belted it down and we got stuffed). He basically questioned the fans loyalty. Of course Brian Smith was a well liked and a good coach. But thats the only difference here.

With regard to your second comment, you would be amazed just how bad the clubs reputation is down under :wink: for many reasons






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Thankfully I missed Friday's game - judging by reports of the team's performance it sounded totally dire. The reaction of some fans cheering the opposition was equally dire by the sounds of it.






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Staffs FC wrote:Thankfully I missed Friday's game - judging by reports of the team's performance it sounded totally dire. The reaction of some fans cheering the opposition was equally dire by the sounds of it.


they cheered the opposition? you cant be serious. out of order imo

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