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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:02 pm 
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Steve0 wrote:Feels like we've been rebuilding since Watts left mid season back in 2018, as you say, needs to stop at some point, can't just keep saying its a new coach he needs year 1 to steady the ship, year 2 to make it his team, year 3 to win something


Big mistake lettingWatts go and never replaced him..Another Radford master stroke

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:19 pm 
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Tony Smiths done the same to Fc that he did to Rovers, too small to take teams on, not big enough to go up the middle so trying to take teams on out wide, it looks great when it comes off but it doesnt come off often enough, and thats why your where you are in the league. Smith talks a good game but unfortunatly hes out of touch.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ll-8722011
Tony Smiths done the same to Fc that he did to Rovers, too small to take teams on, not big enough to go up the middle so trying to take teams on out wide, it looks great when it comes off but it doesnt come off often enough, and thats why your where you are in the league. Smith talks a good game but unfortunatly hes out of touch.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ll-8722011

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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:03 pm 
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bishops finger wrote:Tony Smiths done the same to Fc that he did to Rovers, too small to take teams on, not big enough to go up the middle so trying to take teams on out wide, it looks great when it comes off but it doesnt come off often enough, and thats why your where you are in the league. Smith talks a good game but unfortunatly hes out of touch.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ll-8722011


He has been lumbered with an ineffetive pack, Evans was useless, Sao has been injured or banned most of the year, Satae blows hot and cold, our 2nd row is none existant most weeks. So going up the middle just isnt an option for us. What style he chooses to play next year will be interesting
bishops finger wrote:Tony Smiths done the same to Fc that he did to Rovers, too small to take teams on, not big enough to go up the middle so trying to take teams on out wide, it looks great when it comes off but it doesnt come off often enough, and thats why your where you are in the league. Smith talks a good game but unfortunatly hes out of touch.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ll-8722011


He has been lumbered with an ineffetive pack, Evans was useless, Sao has been injured or banned most of the year, Satae blows hot and cold, our 2nd row is none existant most weeks. So going up the middle just isnt an option for us. What style he chooses to play next year will be interesting

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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:24 am 
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Another shocking display in a Must Win game - losing to Wire was a shocker

Really not progressed other than being able to increase our effort , but only in some games

This is a business based on Winning

It’s not like Tim Sheens “ we lost but didn’t get beat” league table

We have to WIN and the players have let down the Coach this season.

Thankfully TS gets his own squad next year and as long as Lane moves on then I think we have cleared out most of what we needed to

Jam tomorrow for next season






I have lost interest

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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:12 am 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Another shocking display in a Must Win game - losing to Wire was a shocker

Really not progressed other than being able to increase our effort , but only in some games

This is a business based on Winning

It’s not like Tim Sheens “ we lost but didn’t get beat” league table

We have to WIN and the players have let down the Coach this season.

Thankfully TS gets his own squad next year and as long as Lane moves on then I think we have cleared out most of what we needed to

Jam tomorrow for next season


Nobody will take Lane off us, hes just about the most forgettable SL player. Needs to be shipped out to Newcastle its about his standard at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:12 pm 
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Location: In the land of wishful thinking once more. Patiently waiting for our time to finally arrive.
UllFC wrote:He has been lumbered with an ineffetive pack, Evans was useless, Sao has been injured or banned most of the year, Satae blows hot and cold, our 2nd row is none existant most weeks. So going up the middle just isnt an option for us. What style he chooses to play next year will be interesting


Agree with this, think it's one of the root cause's of our struggles this year. Apart from when Satae has one of his on-days, it becomes impossible to lay any decent foundations in a game. This leads to us constantly looking for miracle off the cuff plays to get anywhere, usually by the Clifford-Swift route.
Smith can't be held wholly responsible for this, he has to work with what he has inherited and to somehow find a formula that works with this somewhat disparate group of players. We've had games where it has come together, but obviously nowhere near often enough.

I would think that most of us on here, if we are being brutally honest, would openly admit that our league position reflects this squad of players. Bottom-six certainly, and probably bottom-four on reflection. I was hoping that we could maybe sneak 5th/6th, with a little help from other teams underperforming, but that was me trying to be optimistic in the face of cold reality :(

Ah well, there is always tomorrow/next year isn't there!! There's always next year when you're a b&w, heaven knows I've lived through enough 'next years' to know that :) :)






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 Post subject: Re: Leeds Rhinos - Home
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:21 pm 
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Just got home from the game after spending the night in Hull and all i can say is what a poop show! Some of the worst rugby ive seen in 40 years was under Hodgson and that last night was no better. My dad said its because all the players leaving but i dont buy that. And after nearly a full season of Tony Smith imposing his ideas and methods on the team i cant see what hes actually done. I know i know the team is shocking but they just didnt look interested and had the totally wrong mindset. Two of the best players Savelio and Swift both leaving. Its like were dieing corpse of a team that needs putting out of its misery. Just appalling.

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