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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:41 pm 
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[quote="Gronk!"]False.



Cas are not on a "cost cutting measure" as shown by the signings for next season already - with more to come. But if you want to make things up to try and make yourself look important, go for it.

Sorry but how do you reconcile the above with your earlier post:

"You are aware Cas are losing a ton of players on stupid wages and are replacing them with better players on less money?

McGoldrick, Hudson & Jackson are (or were in McGoldrick's case) apparently on really inflated contracts so the new players brought in for next year are probably taking up less cap space than those 3 players."

Sounds like cost cutting to me, plus I cant believe Shenton is coming to do charity work, he was supposed to be on £200k + a season at Saints, OK you may have reduced that by giving him more security with a longer contract, but he will still be on a decent wedge.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:41 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:44 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:50 pm 
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Gronk! wrote:False.


No it isn't. Nobody has placed an official bid for Rangi Chase this season!!

Gronk! wrote:That is just a ridiculous idea - especially if the crowds are low for the friendlies, any club that would accept such a deal are mugs.

Crowds are very rarely low for games between Hull-Cas in terms of Hull's travelling support, more than Wigan/Warrington could offer. 5k+ for a friendly would be a good return, more so if we stage it at the KC.

Gronk! wrote:Now you're just flat out making stuff up.

He was asked if he would be interested in playing for Wigan - he answered honestly and think of it this way - how many SL players at the minute would want to play for Wigan? Most of them would.

Rangi is not a happy man at Cas, he loves his rugby but wants to win trophies. This won't happen with Castleford any time soon.

Gronk! wrote:Cas are not on a "cost cutting measure" as shown by the signings for next season already - with more to come. But if you want to make things up to try and make yourself look important, go for it.

They are trying to heavily invest in the stadium project. I'm not saying they are going bust or getting rid of everyone but they are simply trying to get more for their money. If Chase leaves they will not spend the same cap next year as this.

Gronk! wrote:Not to mention Ellis & McGoldrick weren't "swapped", Hull wanted McGoldrick, Cas granted him an early release because he was not in the teams plans moving forwards.

By swap i meant 1-out-1-in, not a direct actual swap. The 2 deals were seperate but Ellis is on a fraction of McGoldrick's wage.

If you want to try make yourself look important then nice one, but I know what I know.. Believe it or don't, my life won't change one bit regardless!!






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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:57 pm 
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FC Wembley 08 wrote:No it isn't. Nobody has placed an official bid for Rangi Chase this season!!


There's been enquiries - none from Hull.

FC Wembley 08 wrote:Crowds are very rarely low for games between Hull-Cas in terms of Hull's travelling support, more than Wigan/Warrington could offer. 5k+ for a friendly would be a good return, more so if we stage it at the KC.


Add in the fact it will be the middle of winter, then take off stewarding, policing & tax...that leaves little money.

FC Wembley 08 wrote:Rangi is not a happy man at Cas, he loves his rugby but wants to win trophies. This won't happen with Castleford any time soon.


You'll find he is happy at Cas, every player wants to win trophies - as does every fan & coach, Hull are going to win the same amount of trophies as Cas whilst spending more money.

FC Wembley 08 wrote:They are trying to heavily invest in the stadium project. I'm not saying they are going bust or getting rid of everyone but they are simply trying to get more for their money. If Chase leaves they will not spend the same cap next year as this.


You are aware that money is coming from selling the land the club own, right? Selling players wouldn't do anything in regards to the stadium, now you're just trying to think of reasons as to why Cas want to sell players, when they don't.

FC Wembley 08 wrote:By swap i meant 1-out-1-in, not a direct actual swap. The 2 deals were seperate but Ellis is on a fraction of McGoldrick's wage


As well as being in the future plans of the club, bringing him in early makes sense - as does shipping out McGoldrick who had no future at the club.

The club are building a squad that will have Chase & Clark at the heart of it next season and will be in & around the top 8.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:02 pm 
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EL CAMO wrote:The majority of fans at Craven Park...are idiots who know nothing about the game.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:07 pm 
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Towns88 wrote:Ellis has broken a 16 year long record in his first game with Cas. McGoldrick picked up a fine!

Don`t want to pee on your bonfire,I have nothing against Ellis,but surely you should come crowing on here when Ellis has actually played a few games for you?






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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:19 pm 
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Hutchie wrote:Wonder if AP is going to this?

http://superleague.co.uk/article/25624/ ... -clearance


I should hope AP has been in contact with Bradford to see if we can acquire some players... Im sick of hearing about Rangi Chase (I hope he comes) but I would be very happy to pick up some of the young Bradford Forwards.

Maybe I'm missing something but this would be a no brainier, we need them and they need our cash.
Hutchie wrote:Wonder if AP is going to this?

http://superleague.co.uk/article/25624/ ... -clearance


I should hope AP has been in contact with Bradford to see if we can acquire some players... Im sick of hearing about Rangi Chase (I hope he comes) but I would be very happy to pick up some of the young Bradford Forwards.

Maybe I'm missing something but this would be a no brainier, we need them and they need our cash.






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 Post subject: Re: Rumours Ad Infinitum
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Gronk! wrote:False.

That is just a ridiculous idea - especially if the crowds are low for the friendlies, any club that would accept such a deal are mugs.

Now you're just flat out making stuff up.

He was asked if he would be interested in playing for Wigan - he answered honestly and think of it this way - how many SL players at the minute would want to play for Wigan? Most of them would.

Cas are not on a "cost cutting measure" as shown by the signings for next season already - with more to come. But if you want to make things up to try and make yourself look important, go for it.

Not to mention Ellis & McGoldrick weren't "swapped", Hull wanted McGoldrick, Cas granted him an early release because he was not in the teams plans moving forwards.


Forgive me if I'm confusing you with the other Cas fan, but didn't you say that Peter Gentle would definitely be your new coach?

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