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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:38 am 
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Staffs FC wrote:I'm still waiting for someone at the club to even begin to start persuading me how a merger of Hull and KR academies will produce these 'marquee' players that the current set up has failed with. So far I've been told by Pearson, Tony et al that it will do that - but not really any list of valid reasons how that will happen as a result. Just saying that we can 'pool resources' doesn't persuade me of anything.
If both clubs are aiming for a 50% reduction in costs, then the only improvement I can see is in the performance of the teams as a whole. eg. better squad of players.
If the total investment by both clubs for the combined setup is higher than they are currently investing independently, eg. more coaches, then there could be an improvement.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:08 am 
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Craig Murdock is spot on what if a 17 year old is good enough to play first team rugby which team does he play for
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Combined ... story.html
Craig Murdock is spot on what if a 17 year old is good enough to play first team rugby which team does he play for
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Combined ... story.html

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:12 am 
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... the team he's already been linked to.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:14 am 
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Which ever team he wants to play for & the wants him & fit him in the squad/cap. Not overly complicated really.

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:30 am 
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Aldy wrote:Craig Murdock is spot on what if a 17 year old is good enough to play first team rugby which team does he play for
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Combined ... story.html


If, at 17, he's good enough to play first team, then he'll play wherever he's drafted or offered a deal. Until such time as he can choose where to play, by means of being good enough, It happens under the current system, Taylor being the perfect example.

If Hull was producing an abundance of top SL players, this would be more of an issue.

And yes, I have been to watch the current u19's play, and if a merged Hull academy side was playing the Warrington academy, (most likely merged with the Widnes academy side) I'd go to watch the potential players of the future, from both sides.
Aldy wrote:Craig Murdock is spot on what if a 17 year old is good enough to play first team rugby which team does he play for
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Combined ... story.html


If, at 17, he's good enough to play first team, then he'll play wherever he's drafted or offered a deal. Until such time as he can choose where to play, by means of being good enough, It happens under the current system, Taylor being the perfect example.

If Hull was producing an abundance of top SL players, this would be more of an issue.

And yes, I have been to watch the current u19's play, and if a merged Hull academy side was playing the Warrington academy, (most likely merged with the Widnes academy side) I'd go to watch the potential players of the future, from both sides.

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:34 am 
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K-Diddy wrote:Which ever team he wants to play for & the wants him & fit him in the squad/cap. Not overly complicated really.

It is if the team hasn't the first choice on the draft system that year.

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:46 am 
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What would happen in the scenario that we have an injury crisis and we need an under 19 player to fill the gap for 1 game. Do we have to sign that player onto a full time contract, or can he just play for 1 game, go back to the under 19's and then still be available for Rovers to sign?

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:47 am 
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Wilde 3 wrote:What would happen in the scenario that we have an injury crisis and we need an under 19 player to fill the gap for 1 game. Do we have to sign that player onto a full time contract, or can he just play for 1 game, go back to the under 19's and then still be available for Rovers to sign?


There us certainly a few things to iron out, I think you have have to the draft after under 16's.

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:50 am 
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Dave K. wrote:There us certainly a few things to iron out, I think you have have to the draft after under 16's.



So in that scenario, the under 19's (playing in blue and yellow) will be a team mixed with players signed on to the books of Rovers and Hull FC - and could be team mates one week, opponents the next?

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 Post subject: Re: Merger
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:05 am 
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Current players are ring fenced for the next four years. plenty of time to iron out any issues in the system. I'm all for it if it brings more players through to 1st team for both clubs and I'd have no qualms watching them play.






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