Jake the Peg wrote:Judging by pearson's statement then I'd have said that the club has performed poorly in pretty much every area but profitability, which it hasn't done that well in considering the chronic underinvestment. Seems the reason we've been posting profits is because we've been penny pinching everywhere to the detriment of the club as a whole. If you think that's some kind of vindication of rule's capabilities then you have a different view on things than me
Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:35 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
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VerbalKint wrote:Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.
You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault
Jake the Peg wrote:You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault
People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings. The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.
“When it comes to dreams, one may falter, but the only way to fail is to abandon them".
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:52 pm
Diogenes
Player Coach
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VerbalKint wrote:People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings. The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
Recruitment has not been poor, certainly not for the past two years. The problem was the coach's inability to get the best out of the players.
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:54 pm
Standee
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Apr 03 2003 Posts: 37503
VerbalKint wrote:People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings. The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
FFS, what is it with you and JR.
If JR goes it will because AP has decided someone else can do better.
Poor recruitment, are you for real?
Fubar caused the demise of FC and the fans morale.
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:55 pm
Rock God X
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 21 2006 Posts: 10852
Jake the Peg wrote:There is plenty of defence for rule on this thread
I'm not defending him either, just suggesting the possibility that he may not have done anything that requires defending. It's entirely plausible that the shareholders were calling all the shots, and he was simply implementing their plans. Of course, you're right that he could have walked away, but would you walk away from a well paid job if you couldn't find anything equivalent?
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:56 pm
Standee
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Apr 03 2003 Posts: 37503
Rock God X wrote:I'm not defending him either, just suggesting the possibility that he may not have done anything that requires defending. It's entirely plausible that the shareholders were calling all the shots, and he was simply implementing their plans. Of course, you're right that he could have walked away, but would you walk away from a well paid job if you couldn't find anything equivalent?
which is how most people feel, it's easy to be self-righteous behind a keyboard.
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:56 pm
Rock God X
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 21 2006 Posts: 10852
VerbalKint wrote:Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment.
Penny pinching and lack of investment comes from the owners, not club employees.
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:00 pm
Rock God X
Player Coach
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VerbalKint wrote:The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans.
The truth is you don't know what the truth is.
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