The fish rots from the Head - simple as that ! Adam has admitted he didn’t take a lot of interest in the past and likely not much now !



It’s like a badly run restaurant in Kitchen Nightmares where the owner has given up and microwaves the meals and the Head Chef (Tony) is trying to sell poorly cooked fancy French food for £50 a head on Gypsyville Est



It’s all wrong top to bottom



So for Friday - we don’t know how to score never mind win

We’re not set up to win and we can’t defend

Dobbins want it more as we seem to have stopped focusing on winning but rather producing some kind of woke team culture crap



I fear for the result as I’ve never seen softer tries than the ones v Leigh and Giants in the last 2 weeks



FC will have patches where they try hard but who cares ? They should try hard the whole damn match and that should be a given

All we need to do according to sofa coaches on here is

Drop Jordan Lane and select Balmforth at hooker , then it’s happy days and book old Trafford in October.

At risk of repeating myself ..

Let’s wait and see when we actually get the main bulk of our salary cap on the field.

Who, apart from Trueman would make a difference if they were playing tomorrow?

Be lucky to see the main bulk of salary cap on the field as a fair few of are injury prone and the rest are ill disciplined. Trueman, Hoy, Tuimavave, Sutcliffe, Cator, Scott have all missed a lot of games for us through injury, Houghton struggling this season too.



Injuries are part and parcel of the sport, but we don’t help ourselves signing crocks. Coupled with the lack of S&C staff. However, the discipline side of things should have been sorted out by now. What looks like a lack of fitness won’t help, consistently making errors forcing us to defend for large parts of games will contribute too. Something that should have been sorted by now.



Season is over before our only natural half back is back in full training. If only anyone could have foreseen this …

Exactly, Walker and at a push Fash. But the rest … meh.



Walker - all energy, always around the ball but wince everytime he gets tackled

Fash - better than the likes of Jack Brown but hardly a game changer

Tuimavave - lucky to see a game out

Cator - if playing 13, offers nothing Houghton wouldn’t and god forbid Smith tries him at 9

If and it’s a big if

We could get our best17 team on the pitch for 80 mins then yes we could match most teams.

Pele hadn’t played full game yet

Ese hasn’t played more than one game yet

Sutcliffe hasn’t played 3 games yet

Okunbor has been poor unfortunately

Cator Fash both did a lot of workmanlike tidying up defensive work .

Nu brown playing out of position hasn’t helped either



I’m not the biggest smith fan either but his hands are tied with what he’s got.

“ fans” constantly slagging on here calling local born players they are not good enough doesn’t do any good ..

Posters like Bonaire & cuddle club are dobbins in disguise that are winding others up.

Oh yes by the way

I’m not adam or Tony , I’m just ut just a fan that supported the club for 50 years

It’s so so easy to criticise

Not so easy to support though is it?

This is frightening - it made me gasp out loud :



In his book, Ellis wrote: "What we struggled to eradicate was what I would call the ‘banter’ culture at Hull. It had existed for as long as I had been at the club, not just taking the out of each other but, more worryingly, out of the values you pretend to uphold. At the top clubs, they know when the banter ends and the serious stuff begins."



And this :



Former halfback Jake Clifford had this to say recently about the standards at Hull FC in 2023. When asked on Australian radio if he could compare a pre-season in England and Australia, he said: “No chance. Pre-season in England was a piece of really compared to what we go through here.”

I think I read a different forum to you.



All I've read is a desire to see Balmforth given opportunities on the basis we are poor in the area he may shine.

Rovers will just kill us through the middle the same way Leigh did. Leigh found so much success behind the ruck because our big lads couldn't turn quick enough. Rovers will just do exactly the same unfortunately.

Were not the only one getting 'crucified' today , i am praying we dont but i just cant see any other outcome today, kr doing the basics will be more than enough for us i fear..i know form goes out the window in these games but the gulf atm is way yo big.

More of the same, mistakes, mistakes, mistakes followed by poor discipline and non existent defence, which will equal at least a 40 pt win for them, I'd love to be wrong but it would be one of the biggest shocks going for us to get anything out of this.



Who has everyone got for card roulette this week?

I can assure you I’m not a dobbin, but thanks for your concern. Gareth Ellis slagging the club off and players attitudes etc. But yeah I’m overly negative. You carry on like everything is rosy







Also stating players aren’t good enough isn’t “slagging them off” it’s just saying the obvious. Players like Fash, cator, Scott etc aren’t good enough. It’s an opinion I don’t really care if a club apologist like you thinks it does any good

Quite nice waking up on a Good Friday with zero expectations.

No knot in the stomach or asking my landlord to open early.

A couple of poached eggs on toast watching my second game of NRL.

Will relax on sofa watching our inevitable demise followed by Saints v Wigan which should be decent.

Very similar to you W. Added baked beans over my poached eggs on toast then your viewing schedule which will end for me at around 0300 hours.

Or just get blackout drunk early and fall asleep at kickoff, there's 3 days to recover

Pele for the hattrick for me

Excellent effort Freddie for a man on your tender years

Any prediction?

It was contemplated.



I'll just turn over if we're getting our @rses handed to us at half-time and watch the horses on ITV.

Staveley rested

A nailed on draw is the way to go with this one. Well worth a tanner if you fancy a big bet!

Irregular hoops cut into the pitch? Is the KR groundsman a black and white?