Could be 50/60 this, we have no leaders and the heads look gone already.

Bingo

It's the lazy defence that's the issue, so many players make poor decisions or weak efforts like Lane.

He has to be dropped, really really poor start to the season, lives off a couple of good runs a season. Not big or strong enough.

his defence is crap

Reminds me of the mid to late 90s at the Boulevard. Not a single game breaker in there and a pack that just doesn't cut it. Cuts in playing budget quickly manifesting themselves.

That's rubbish, had no chance with Wright, but saved 2/3 trys this game.

We have much bigger problems than Hoy

Really feel for the Hull fanbase. The culture is completely rotten. Smith will get it right but he'll need to get rid of all of the poison first.

That’s first half is nothing to do about being good enough or not it’s simply a case of a number of players not putting any effort in at all. Win or lose but the lack of effort, desire is truly awful and Salford are a good side but no Penrith.

Our attitude stinks to high heaven.

Half time talk worked then

Great to see they've come out with a better attitude....