Lang Park wrote:To give a sense of perspective I suggest that everyone mentally replaces every reference that Pearson makes to "the club" with "my investment".
The guy has no interest in the club whatsoever other than the monetary value has has invested in it.
It is obviuously conjecture, but if someone offered him his money back that he paid for the club tomorrow I'd wager he'd bite their proverbial hand off.
It's a tricky one trying to read AP. If what you say is true, why would he have paid the SMC (Allams) to keep the North Stand open, this season, when he could have saved his cash????? If he is motivated by money, why has he laft a lucrative position at Leeds United, or was it Hetherington that run him out of Leeds or is it a conflict of interests regards the FA, ie consortium taking over City??????????????
Lang Park wrote:To give a sense of perspective I suggest that everyone mentally replaces every reference that Pearson makes to "the club" with "my investment".
The guy has no interest in the club whatsoever other than the monetary value has has invested in it.
It is obviuously conjecture, but if someone offered him his money back that he paid for the club tomorrow I'd wager he'd bite their proverbial hand off.
100%, in fact I think he'd stomach a 25% loss to just walk away, but hey ho, he's still the messiah in some eyes and it's all our fault for not throwing good money after bad.
If Hull FC were a restaurant, serving up poor food in a dull environment, luke warm coffee with salt instead of sugar, would people still say "keep paying, or it will close"... it's a buyers market when it comes to entertainment/leisure.
Armavinit wrote:It's a tricky one trying to read AP. If what you say is true, why would he have paid the SMC (Allams) to keep the North Stand open, this season, when he could have saved his cash????? If he is motivated by money, why has he laft a lucrative position at Leeds United, or was it Hetherington that run him out of Leeds or is it a conflict of interests regards the FA, ie consortium taking over City??????????????
I think he's still hoping to get the success he craves so that he can turn things around and walk away with a profit. After all, he had several failures and was under pressure to sack Peter Taylor at City before he turned things around and saw Ap walk away with a tidy profit.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
HullFC_1865 wrote:100%, in fact I think he'd stomach a 25% loss to just walk away, but hey ho, he's still the messiah in some eyes and it's all our fault for not throwing good money after bad.
If Hull FC were a restaurant, serving up poor food in a dull environment, luke warm coffee with salt instead of sugar, would people still say "keep paying, or it will close"... it's a buyers market when it comes to entertainment/leisure.
To be fair the field of professional sports has always been a special case and the loyalty to the brand has always been stronger in it. I respect the fact that people are loyal to Hull FC and prepared to spend their hard earned cash even when they're not been served up value for money. What I find hard to accept is when those that have a different value system are pilloried for it. They should be shown the same respect for their views as those who still choose to financially support the club.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
Lang Park wrote:To be fair the field of professional sports has always been a special case and the loyalty to the brand has always been stronger in it. I respect the fact that people are loyal to Hull FC and prepared to spend their hard earned cash even when they're not been served up value for money. What I find hard to accept is when those that have a different value system are pilloried for it. They should be shown the same respect for their views as those who still choose to financially support the club.
Fair post. Of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion and may chose to do what they please with thier hard earned cash. The problem arises when thier opinion is constantly pushed down other peoples throats and then respond by pilloring others for thier own opposite opinions, if that makes sense. Not a good comparison, I admit, when "He who shall not be named" at The Dark Side, was reportedly funding his club to the tune of £500,000 a year, supposedly, then went on to say "unless we can attract alternative investment, I am genuinely thinking of leaving" there was no resultant hoohah, the same as we are experiencing????????????????
Armavinit wrote:Fair post. Of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion and may chose to do what they please with thier hard earned cash. The problem arises when thier opinion is constantly pushed down other peoples throats and then respond by pilloring others for thier own opposite opinions, if that makes sense. Not a good comparison, I admit, when "He who shall not be named" at The Dark Side, was reportedly funding his club to the tune of £500,000 a year, supposedly, then went on to say "unless we can attract alternative investment, I am genuinely thinking of leaving" there was no resultant hoohah, the same as we are experiencing????????????????
There was no Hoohah because we all realised the seriousness of him walking away. To be fair to Hudge he did have 'runs on the board' from where we where when he took over to where we where at the time of his statement and a lot more recent memories of the club being on the brink.
I'd say the worrying thing for FC is not just the renewal of passes but more the addition of x number of passes to break even to AP's satisfaction. Reading between the lines he cannot run the club with the finances equal to what they were this year, so that needs a step change in income going forward. What level of success would see this happen, top 4, GF appearance, cup final??. The 1st 2 will be extremely difficult to achieve a year after finishing so far off the pace, the last one is always possible but again is far from a certainty.
I'd say more worryingly for Pearson is even if you get a reasonable level of success (Top 6 and a decent super 8 performance) is will that be worth much more to him?
results bring in more supporters in more or less any sport, we start well and I think the support will start to come back, but we have to start well, imo with the players we have I think we can
once a black and white always a black and white COYH
barham red wrote:There was no Hoohah because we all realised the seriousness of him walking away. To be fair to Hudge he did have 'runs on the board' from where we where when he took over to where we where at the time of his statement and a lot more recent memories of the club being on the brink.
I'd say the worrying thing for FC is not just the renewal of passes but more the addition of x number of passes to break even to AP's satisfaction. Reading between the lines he cannot run the club with the finances equal to what they were this year, so that needs a step change in income going forward. What level of success would see this happen, top 4, GF appearance, cup final??. The 1st 2 will be extremely difficult to achieve a year after finishing so far off the pace, the last one is always possible but again is far from a certainty.
I'd say more worryingly for Pearson is even if you get a reasonable level of success (Top 6 and a decent super 8 performance) is will that be worth much more to him?
We're lead to believe that part of FC's tenancy agreement is that the SMC fund 3000 passes? Has this become a bone of contention between AP and the Allams? Can they rewrite the tenancy agreement , in light of what's happened with the Council's recent court case???????????????? Hence his push for pass sales?
Armavinit wrote:Fair post. Of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion and may chose to do what they please with thier hard earned cash. The problem arises when thier opinion is constantly pushed down other peoples throats and then respond by pilloring others for thier own opposite opinions, if that makes sense. Not a good comparison, I admit, when "He who shall not be named" at The Dark Side, was reportedly funding his club to the tune of £500,000 a year, supposedly, then went on to say "unless we can attract alternative investment, I am genuinely thinking of leaving" there was no resultant hoohah, the same as we are experiencing????????????????
No comparison at all. Hudge did not blame the supporters. Did not try and blackmail them into buying passes. Saying the same thing each year. Pearson has annoyed many of your own supporters. Hudge merely said he did not want to continue paying out to the tune of £500,000 per year and was looking for further investment. How could he attract investment unless he said he needed it? Your club appears to be in a financial mess with falling sponsorship and attendances, information supplied by Pearson himself. Your response is to try and deflect attention from this mess by erroneously comparing the situation with a different scenario at another club. Well done, it must make you feel a lot better trying to show that KR is in the same financial mess as FC.
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