Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:09 pm
Kosh
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Jake the Peg wrote:Does beg the question as to what kind of business makes their marketing manager CEO?
Think he might have been Marketing Director. Not sure.
IIRC it was something of a surprise at the time. Lends weight to the view that he basically looked after marketing/admin and all the major decisions were made over his head.
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:24 pm
Standee
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Apr 03 2003 Posts: 37503
Jake the Peg wrote:All of this defence for rule gives me a sense of de ja vu when people were defending first agar and then the club owners pre pearson's take over
I don't think there is a defence of Rule, just an acceptance that AP is nobody's fool, and if he feels Rule is the right person for the job then we see no reason to doubt him thus far.
I don't like JR, he's a self-important Hymers type with an ego to match his daft hair style, but I don't think he's doing a bad job at FC.
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:29 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30565
Standee wrote:I don't think there is a defence of Rule, just an acceptance that AP is nobody's fool, and if he feels Rule is the right person for the job then we see no reason to doubt him thus far.
I don't like JR, he's a self-important Hymers type with an ego to match his daft hair style, but I don't think he's doing a bad job at FC.
There is plenty of defence for rule on this thread
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:32 pm
F.C. Aces
Player Coach
Joined: Mar 17 2007 Posts: 2394 Location: Just outside the cuddle crew
Ian P wrote:Bloody marvelous, AP is like a breath of fresh air after all the spin and crap we have had in recent years.
JR is next on the leaving party list as I reckon we need a complete sweep of the club to remove any traces of the last administration. The whole club has to be purged of mediocrity, the milk cow mentality and become more customer ( fan ) focused
For year many of attempted to point out what the old mob where doing , milking us dry and for years we where shouted down. Disloyal, unfaithful and un grateful to those who kept the club alive, true they did and now it would appear that debt we have repaid many times over.
I am filled with releif when I see the new owner coming out with these sort of statements, after years of under funding and being sold short we may at long last be on the verge of a golden future.
One I hope we can all share and enjoy a brillaint secure future together
Seems AP has got one hell of a big broom and this is a now a new chapter in our history.After reading that statment of intent,i for one cannot wait for it all to begin on the pitch.It feels great to be a Hull fan and be back hopefully where we belong and that's at the top.All Hail King AP.
Jake the Peg wrote:Judging by pearson's statement then I'd have said that the club has performed poorly in pretty much every area but profitability, which it hasn't done that well in considering the chronic underinvestment. Seems the reason we've been posting profits is because we've been penny pinching everywhere to the detriment of the club as a whole. If you think that's some kind of vindication of rule's capabilities then you have a different view on things than me
Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.
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Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:35 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30565
VerbalKint wrote:Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.
You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault
Jake the Peg wrote:You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault
People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings. The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist.
“When it comes to dreams, one may falter, but the only way to fail is to abandon them".
Post subject: Re: In Adam we trust - beautiful words
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:52 pm
Diogenes
Player Coach
Joined: Aug 30 2005 Posts: 3231 Location: in a cave
VerbalKint wrote:People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings. The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
Recruitment has not been poor, certainly not for the past two years. The problem was the coach's inability to get the best out of the players.
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