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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:30 pm 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Said like a blue blood Tory, you really have no idea how to make a business work successfully do you? EPIC FAIL :CRAZY:

The fact is AP has failed at the most basic of levels in running a business, he's failed to run the organisation in the manner it should be. He should have done a top to toe shake down, installed the right people, kept those that could, got rid of those that can't (Rule should have stayed for a while longer for me). Look at investing in a way that doesn't shout tight-wad penny pincher, the good investments he has put in have actually being just that, investments, some of which will actually rise in value.

The pay-offs he's had to make are partly because he didn't do his job properly and didn't get the right people in, if you think he wasn't aware of certain things going on then you damn Pearson for what he really is.

A 2 bit Arthur Daley 2nd hand car salesman. Spend a bit here, cut a bit there, make do and mend, huff and puff when you've being found out, never admit you're wrong then try flogging a dead horse after you've banged on about how much money you've lost on the deal when the punter starts to walk away and then blame anyone but yourself for why it's knackered :roll:

What we need is a strong CEO, someone to make sure the 'directors' know what they are supposed to be doing, they have limited experience, one of them hasn't worked anywhere else but the KC, they all have a narrow band within industry and none of them are individual leaders, they are directors in name oly, nothing more.

We also do not need a 'rugby man', that's not the priority, we have a director of rugby already, if they have had dealings within rugby great, BUT more than anything else he has to have a background of hands on management of a large operation, someone prepared to face up to an owner and tell him he/she is wrong over certain things. I don't want a yes man in charge.
A strong CEO ensures stupid things like the Shaul incident never even get to the point where a coach whom is unable to express himself in the manner one would expect to the media gets to sit in the chair without at least being prepared what to say and what not to say instead of sounding like a thug and completely idiotic. Out so called communications director failed massively on that as on previous rantings our coach has provided.

I really hope AP sells us, tbh if he's here more than 12 months I'd be surprised.

rule should have stayed? Are you mad??? The guy nearly sent the club to oblivion by his cover up of drugs mis use, nevermind us breaking the salary cap under his leadership, and playing an ineligible player in the cup.... the further away from the club the better for me






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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:38 pm 
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I did say 'a while longer', a transition period until someone new was put in place. for all Rules failings he also did a very good job under extreme circumstances under the Hetherington's. Could have being better but he was never given full reign in any case.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:44 pm 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:I did say 'a while longer', a transition period until someone new was put in place. for all Rules failings he also did a very good job under extreme circumstances under the Hetherington's. Could have being better but he was never given full reign in any case.


Wasn't he given a 2 year ban stopping him working with any sports club?

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
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Agree with most of what you say Knockers but i think we need a rugby man as an owner - i dont know where one will come from but in an ideal world thats what will awaken FC imo. For all his faults we want an FC Hudgell and if we had one we'd love him far more than Pearson as he'd have passion in his blood for the club.

Whilst Pearson owns FC our club will only go backwards and its already shocking - any further and we will be the next Bradford. The total mess the clubs in will take years to sort out but the first thing that needs to happen is it becomes part of the community again - at the moment its just this entity that plays in a ground that its not wanted in - we need a new owner and leadership, directors, coaches and a completely new and fresh impetus at getting this club to being a club that its fans are proud of again - something not many of are any more

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:I did say 'a while longer', a transition period until someone new was put in place. for all Rules failings he also did a very good job under extreme circumstances under the Hetherington's. Could have being better but he was never given full reign in any case.

The entire board and rule included were a set of clownss in my opinion, all in it for themselves... some of the things that went on under there leadership borderd on the unbelievable....






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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:48 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:Agree with most of what you say Knockers but i think we need a rugby man as an owner - i dont know where one will come from but in an ideal world thats what will awaken FC imo. For all his faults we want an FC Hudgell and if we had one we'd love him far more than Pearson as he'd have passion in his blood for the club.

Whilst Pearson owns FC our club will only go backwards and its already shocking - any further and we will be the next Bradford. The total mess the clubs in will take years to sort out but the first thing that needs to happen is it becomes part of the community again - at the moment its just this entity that plays in a ground that its not wanted in - we need a new owner and leadership, directors, coaches and a completely new and fresh impetus at getting this club to being a club that its fans are proud of again - something not many of are any more

Cant argue with any of that






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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:52 pm 
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K-Diddy wrote:Wasn't he given a 2 year ban stopping him working with any sports club?

I believe his ban was only confined to the playing side, negotiating player contracts and deals and the like. That's why he was able to take up the (business admin only) role of CEO at Widnes.






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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:05 pm 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Said like a blue blood Tory, you really have no idea how to make a business work successfully do you? EPIC FAIL :CRAZY:

The fact is AP has failed at the most basic of levels in running a business, he's failed to run the organisation in the manner it should be. He should have done a top to toe shake down, installed the right people, kept those that could, got rid of those that can't (Rule should have stayed for a while longer for me). Look at investing in a way that doesn't shout tight-wad penny pincher, the good investments he has put in have actually being just that, investments, some of which will actually rise in value.

The pay-offs he's had to make are partly because he didn't do his job properly and didn't get the right people in, if you think he wasn't aware of certain things going on then you damn Pearson for what he really is.

A 2 bit Arthur Daley 2nd hand car salesman. Spend a bit here, cut a bit there, make do and mend, huff and puff when you've being found out, never admit you're wrong then try flogging a dead horse after you've banged on about how much money you've lost on the deal when the punter starts to walk away and then blame anyone but yourself for why it's knackered :roll:

What we need is a strong CEO, someone to make sure the 'directors' know what they are supposed to be doing, they have limited experience within industry, one of them hasn't worked anywhere else but the KC, and none of them are individual leaders, they are directors in name only, nothing more.

We also do not need a 'rugby man', that's not the priority, we have a director of rugby (of sorts) already, if they have had dealings within rugby great, BUT more than anything else they need a background of hands on management of a large operation, someone prepared to face up to an owner and tell them they're wrong over certain things. I don't want a yes man in charge.
A strong CEO ensures stupid things like the Shaul incident never even get to the point where a coach whom is unable to express himself in the manner one would expect to the media gets to sit in the chair without at least being prepared what to say and what not to say instead of sounding like a thug and completely idiotic. Our so called communications director failed massively on that as on previous rantings our coach has provided.

A CEO stops dodgy deals being done (if indeed there were any), it's his job to ensure VFM, not cutting back but ensuring an investment is worth what we are paying, property, player or otherwise. If he doesn't know the value of players it's his job to find out and if that figure s justified, follow recommendation's, garner advice not just from within the club but from external sources also.
Sadly, AP failed to employ a strong CEO from the off, THAT is a massive failure, THAT has cost us and him dearly many many times over what it would have cost him up front. But you can't see that can you?

I really hope AP sells us, tbh if he's here more than 12 months I'd be surprised.

You've mentioned these errors of judgement before. But we are where we are which is skint, according to Seb. If there's no cash, there's no cash. I have absolutely no doubt that we need a CEO. But if there's no cash, there's no cash. To generate cash, either the stayaway fans come back and fund a better future for the club or we sell our assets. Where is the cash coming from to pay off Radford today if we are skint? You seem totally unable to answer a basic question. You're deluded if you think on dwindling gates and a progressively more challenging rental arrangement that AP will suddenly pay Radford off, upgrade the coaching staff and fetch in a CEO. Totally unrealistic.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:08 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:we need a new owner and leadership, directors, coaches

:lol: There's freaking dozens of cashed up Hull FC fans out there to buy and direct the club, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Pearson returns to Leeds United
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:13 pm 
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Staffs FC wrote:What a joke this forum has become.


These so called fans are a joke , talk as if they know everything and know nothing. The warrington game showed how good we can be ,played really well and there lies the problem ,we won they hate it for the fact it has taken pressure of Radford ,the petition did not work so now its Pearsons turn for the flack.I dont think there has been anyone in the Fc set up from the top to the bottom they have not had a go at..pathetic .If you feel that all is bad then go ..simple

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