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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:53 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Your side is up there with the 2005/6 vintage in terms of class and dominance. Can't see past you for the 2 big ones and the hubcap - too good.

Dominance maybe ? Class no chance , the standard of opposition is no where near . A very good saints team , but let’s not go overboard

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:54 pm 
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We were simply outclassed tonight.
Saints were quality. Speed , aggression and execution, desire .
What makes them so good? Certainly an ingredient we need to find !






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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:55 pm 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:I didn’t see it
Was Manu as ineffective as he has been if late ?

He looks like the game has caught up with him. Struggle's with the pace of the game now, doesn't look in decent shape anymore for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:58 pm 
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HFC Boy wrote:We were simply outclassed tonight.
Saints were quality. Speed , aggression and execution, desire .
What makes them so good? Certainly an ingredient we need to find !

Done consistently, the reason London have done so well with average players. Holbrook gets that consistently. We don’t . When we do, we can beat anyone

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:58 pm 
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Faithful One wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-league-news/lee-radford-strong-message-hull-3061699.amp?__twitter_impression=true



Jake Connor, meanwhile, left the field in the second period but Radford was coy on the reason why.

"Jake. No (it wasn't tactical)."

Asked if he thought it was a serious injury, Radford responded: "No, I don't."


Hmm...


So a groin injury is not serious?
Saying that Connor is a liability when the team are getting well beaten

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:05 pm 
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MorningGlory23 wrote:Don’t want to slag Radford , because I do like him , but with 2 teams pretty much even talent wise. The coaching for me the difference between the 2 sides tonight, and it ain’t just a small difference, it’s huge


Radford interview after the game
one or two blokes just not learning

Well if thats the case why are they playing in the first team?

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:20 pm 
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ref was appalling.saints are a decent side,but to be honest our home form is just not good enough.any other side would fancy their chances of finishing in the top 5 with last 9 fixtures including 6 at home.not us .

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:23 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Certainly got some.challenges keeping a top 5 spot. Could do with a win next week and Saints to beat Wigan to restore a 4 point cushion to 4th. Wonder what went on at Cas tonight? Leeds getting their act together it seems but still a bit surprised by the result.


Cas without Gale are rudderless. Can see them missing out on the top 5.






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 Post subject: Re: Saints
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Mrs Barista wrote:Your side is up there with the 2005/6 vintage in terms of class and dominance. Can't see past you for the 2 big ones and the hubcap - too good.


I don't agree. In terms of dominance they are probably more dominant than the 05/06 team but in terms of class much less so. Thee biggest difference is in 05/06 there was FC, Bulls, Rhinos, Warriors to compete with. This year Wire are the closest and they are well behind.






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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:34 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Nothing wrong with the referee
Saints as i said just too big and fast especially round the ruck area which we just cant handle,
You also have to look at their ball handling and pass compared to ours.
We are just too slow.
What is shows once again is how poor we are in reality


So much quicker in everything they do compared to us, We don't even look like we're playing the same game. they're well drilled, fit, fast, strong and enthusiastic. Everything we're not TBH. Why don't our forwards run like theirs? Why doesn't our defensive line move up like theirs? Why is their first defensive contact so much better than ours? Why is their passing so much slicker and more accurate than ours? Why do they hunt in 3's and 4's in defense when we hunt in 1's and 2's?

For me it's all down to coaching. holbrook is a very good coach who has transformed that group of players from average to way above average and has everyone in the team playing well week in, week out.

If we get to wembley I can see us being completely embarrassed by them, possibly taking rovers record away from them.

You also have to question why weaker squads than ours seem to be able to handle saints much better than we do. As soon as we play a team who play the game with real tempo we just fall to pieces






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