Joined: Sep 04 2005 Posts: 1115 Location: In the land of wishful thinking once more. Patiently waiting for our time to finally arrive.
Seventies red wrote:Hull FC may have to take a step back before been able to move forward again.
We can't afford to take too many steps backwards, we're already a touch too close to the cliff edge, a couple of further steps back and we will be over it
I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011.
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
mwindass wrote:Why are all these Rovers fans bothered about our new coach/ recruitment process?
Probably because it is rumoured to be Smith, and we haven’t completely resolved how we feel about his time at Rovers and we don’t really know how we feel about this. Well, I don’t anyway.
His first interview after appointment and Peters’ first after arrival will both be really interesting, on a few levels.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Mild Rover wrote:Probably because it is rumoured to be Smith, and we haven’t completely resolved how we feel about his time at Rovers and we don’t really know how we feel about this. Well, I don’t anyway.
His first interview after appointment and Peters’ first after arrival will both be really interesting, on a few levels.
I just don't get why most fans are painting him out to be a failure, which he wasn't.
I get the animosity towards him after his exit. But most Rovers fans have spent the last few months saying you've moved on from him.
Chris71 wrote:Thorman for whatever reason (maybe just too big a club and pressure)was truly awful as a player in his time at Hull but as a player elsewhere he was more than decent. He certainly possesses a decent rugby brain though whether he is experienced or hard enough to be be able to deal with players like ours I'm unsure as it isn't going to be pretty if the law is laid down from day one as it should be. His coaching record doesn't seem to set the world alight either to suggest we can expect great things.
Wonder what Danny Orr is doing?
2009 was a bad time for the club, the class of 2006 had either got old and/or had lost their mojo, a recession had hit and funds were low for the fans and an untested assistant was in charge...sound familiar?
Marcus's Bicycle wrote:He did get you to a SL semi final with a very average squad.
You have a habit of rewriting history Keith.
Not at all. Everything I said was true. We got to the semifinals despite the three poor signings. The incident with BT came in his second year the semi final was in the first. I was responding to the statement that TS made good signings and offloaded players who did not fit into the culture. The three were not good signings and BT obviously did not fit into the culture of the club. As usual you choose to ignore the context of the discussion so you can make your silly snide remark
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12647 Location: Leicestershire.
mwindass wrote:I just don't get why most fans are painting him out to be a failure, which he wasn't.
I get the animosity towards him after his exit. But most Rovers fans have spent the last few months saying you've moved on from him.
It'll make that first derby extra spicy at least
He definitely wasn’t a failure. I’d be entirely comfortable calling his time at Rovers an equivocal success.
He misjudged his leaving announcement, imo, but I’ve got no animosity to him at all - I don’t think the decision itself was wrong, in any sense. There’s a few things where, if he talks about what he wants to do at Hull in some specific different ways to how he talked about Rovers, it’ll pee me off a bit - even acknowledging these are different clubs in somewhat different situations.
I expect he’ll give Hull a boost, and he carries enough weight to sort out some of the perceived attitude problems that have been claimed to afflict your club for a while. There are some potential downsides, but there are always are with any appointment. He looks like a good option and he’s probably the best immediately available option.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Keiththered wrote:Not at all. Everything I said was true. We got to the semifinals despite the three poor signings. The incident with BT came in his second year the semi final was in the first. I was responding to the statement that TS made good signings and offloaded players who did not fit into the culture. The three were not good signings and BT obviously did not fit into the culture of the club. As usual you choose to ignore the context of the discussion so you can make your silly snide remark
Do you think Tony Smith is a top class SL coach who has improved every team he has been involved with including Rovers?
Chris71 wrote:Thorman for whatever reason (maybe just too big a club and pressure)was truly awful as a player in his time at Hull but as a player elsewhere he was more than decent. He certainly possesses a decent rugby brain though whether he is experienced or hard enough to be be able to deal with players like ours I'm unsure as it isn't going to be pretty if the law is laid down from day one as it should be. His coaching record doesn't seem to set the world alight either to suggest we can expect great things.
Wonder what Danny Orr is doing?
If Smith comes in and its odds on he will he will want to work with someone he knows and trusts as his assistant. My only concern now is we are playing catchup with regards to recruitment with our second row particularly weak. Getting rid of Taylor and Griffin should be a priority for Smith once he is confirmed, and if we can offload Evans it would give us another overseas slot as we surely can do better than Evans .
bonaire wrote:If Smith comes in and its odds on he will he will want to work with someone he knows and trusts as his assistant. My only concern now is we are playing catchup with regards to recruitment with our second row particularly weak. Getting rid of Taylor and Griffin should be a priority for Smith once he is confirmed, and if we can offload Evans it would give us another overseas slot as we surely can do better than Evans .
I'm willing to give Evans one more chance, he has looked good in patches but had a very stop start season with bans and injuries.
bonaire wrote:If Smith comes in and its odds on he will he will want to work with someone he knows and trusts as his assistant. My only concern now is we are playing catchup with regards to recruitment with our second row particularly weak. Getting rid of Taylor and Griffin should be a priority for Smith once he is confirmed, and if we can offload Evans it would give us another overseas slot as we surely can do better than Evans .
Easier said than done when under contract and no takers. Pearson surely cannot pay them all off.
We may have to keep them and hope the new coach can get a tune out of them.
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