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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:57 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:You can dress it up as much as you like but tonight there are simply no excuses!!! It’s was an utterly shambolic effort and performance.
Yes Warrington were very good tonight but Jesus we made it easy for them our line speed, ball retention, discipline is, has been and continues to be woeful!!
Question is why can the coaching staff after all the time they’ve had not have improved this.

We were terrible. Absolutely. But none of that alters the fact Warrington have a better squad and fewer injuries. We're a lower mid table squad and they're a Top 2 squad. That's the 2019 reality. Add in missing players and we're bottom 4 standard.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:58 pm 
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:Warrington have more money better players and are a better side. But a 12-63 defeat at home is shameful.

100%. Pack absolutely steamrollered.

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:04 pm 
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When I see names like Thompson, mini and miloudi in our starting line up I start worrying, they just arnt good enough or arnt good enough any more.

I think we need somebody who specialises in recruitment and handles decisions on player renewals somebody who’s not going to be sentimental and is quite ruthless as we’re getting it very wrong since motu s departure

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:07 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:We were terrible. Absolutely. But none of that alters the fact Warrington have a better squad and fewer injuries. We're a lower mid table squad and they're a Top 2 squad. That's the 2019 reality. Add in missing players and we're bottom 4 standard.


They also have a good Aussie coach who has completely changed the squad,with some top signings,added size with pace and defence into the team.

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:09 pm 
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Shocking. We need a leader for a captain not a workhorse who literally has his head down all game. Sneyd having an absolute stinker of a season so far.






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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:09 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:We were terrible. Absolutely. But none of that alters the fact Warrington have a better squad and fewer injuries. We're a lower mid table squad and they're a Top 2 squad. That's the 2019 reality. Add in missing players and we're bottom 4 standard.


There are two ways to look at this. Either we have a squad that is capable of winning things but that just aren't performing anywhere near their potential. Or, we have gone from having arguably the best squad in SL to one that is bottom 4 standard in the space of two years. I am somewhere in the middle. I think we are good enough on paper to be making the top 5, but probably need a couple of good additions to be genuine contenders.

Whichever side of the argument you are on, Radford has to take the blame. Either he can't get a performance out of a good side, or he has allowed a side that came very close to a treble to be completely dismantled.

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:11 pm 
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That was a kick in the stones.

Miloudi should be released in the morning, You can't play this game and be bottleless he's no use to us.

Gareth Ellis has played 5 games this season, we've won 4 of those 5, he needs to play for us, because at the moment.nobody want's to step up and be a leader

Sneyd absolute Tom tit tonight.

Missing Shaul's communication and organisation from the back was telling.

We don't seem to be able to perform at the KC this year.

I'll call it a terrible night at the office, but I'll judge them by their reaction to it next week.

But you've every right to feel gloomy tonight.

On the positives. We got quality like Shaul. Connor and Ellis to come back in, not to mention Tuli, Bowden and Green

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:15 pm 
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giddyupoldfella wrote:That was a kick in the stones.

Miloudi should be released in the morning, You can't play this game and be bottleless he's no use to us.

Gareth Ellis has played 5 games this season, we've won 4 of those 5, he needs to play for us, because at the moment.nobody want's to step up and be a leader

Sneyd absolute Tom tit tonight.

Missing Shaul's communication and organisation from the back was telling.

We don't seem to be able to perform at the KC this year.

I'll call it a terrible night at the office, but I'll judge them by their reaction to it next week.

But you've every right to feel gloomy tonight.

On the positives. We got quality like Shaul. Connor and Ellis to come back in, not to mention Tuli, Bowden and Green


Apart from stepping away from the bomb in the 2nd half, what did Miloudi bottle? Always wanted the ball, made yards etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:18 pm 
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Shaul and Connor offer something but no way are Bowden and Green going to make a difference. They are steady Eddie, average SL props. We've only got one quality prop at the club.

Tonight was shameful and that's the third time we've shipped 60+ points in seventeen games.

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 Post subject: Re: Up next Wire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:19 pm 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:There are two ways to look at this. Either we have a squad that is capable of winning things but that just aren't performing anywhere near their potential. Or, we have gone from having arguably the best squad in SL to one that is bottom 4 standard in the space of two years. I am somewhere in the middle. I think we are good enough on paper to be making the top 5, but probably need a couple of good additions to be genuine contenders.

Whichever side of the argument you are on, Radford has to take the blame. Either he can't get a performance out of a good side, or he has allowed a side that came very close to a treble to be completely dismantled.


Don't disagree at all that our squad quality has been diluted whilst Wire and Saints have stepped on. I do think factors in play are that we have less to spend and that we chose to invest a proportion of our budget on the reserves which those teams didn't. Sacking Watts and not replacing him is a good totem for our recruitment of the last couple of years.

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