It's not just the violence it's the increasing propensity of people chucking beer in the air in celebration.

The BBC were pretty much encouraging this during the FIFA World Cup last year by showing it happening at fans parks around England and even saying which was the 'best' celebration.

I know most people behave and that stopping everyone enjoying a couple of pints whilst watching the game is punishing innocent people but it's worth it to stop trouble and maybe stop families drifting away from the sport.

Go to any live music gig and watch the mosh pit. £10 for a 2 pint plastic glass and half of it is thrown into the crowd or emptied and filled with urine then thrown into the crowd!!! Modern lack of scruples. I blame Thatcher.

There's a difference between the mosh pit at a gig and a stand full of families at a rugby league game.

I agree. The reality is that most clubs have sections of supporters who cross a behavioural line. Clubs have no interest in dealing with them - attendances are compromised as it is and they want the bar turnover, and the RFL don't want a light shining our hooliganism issue. I suspect what we will get is a couple of Wire fans being "banned for life" (not enforceable), a comment from both clubs trying to deflect from the issue by talking about the majority of well behaved fans, and a £20k fine for Warrington's owner who is worth £157m.

The unintended consequence of this continuing as you say is that families are put off. We have a real opportunity here as a sport to take a moment of self reflection and launch a positive, take a stand initiative, being transparent about the issue and encouraging fans to call out what's unacceptable and galvanise around a family theme. With the ladies game taking off and reserves back next year this could be a good time to reinvigorate the "club" mentality and differentiate ourselves positively from other sports. It won't happen, but something needs to change or Wembley could get messy.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " Burke" I believe.
Not many are prepared to stand, and deliver the wrong doers to their fate.
Most, can be trusted to attend and behave.
Just because the few can't behave, doesn't mean the many should suffer.
Get tough with the few.

So because you cant have a pint in your hand for 90 minutes you suffer.Hardly suffering.
Its pathetic that supporters cant go to a game without having beer.
Its been the same for years alcohol fuels violence.The Wembley final,the grand final and magic weekend there are always pockets of alcohol fuelled violence at these events.
We have seen the R/L clubs get tough policies and they do nothing.
The main problem is alcohol and if the R/L dont sort it out then we have to wait until someone is seriously injured or killed before the Government acts to ban alcohol at sports grounds.

No I don't suffer, and quite often I don't drink at games. But, just because some, not many really, can't handle it, doesn't mean it should be banned.

As I said, get tough,

Someone on Twitter pointed out that much of the discussion surrounding possible venues for Magic weekend related to which stadium had the best/largest number of pubs in the vicinity which kind of sums up the problem we have.

agree with you large paws.spot on.

So banning drinking in the grounds is going to prevent people been intoxicated during the games. Think people need a reality check. It won’t make a difference, you’d still get the small number of incidents regardless. People are just making excuses for bell ends who can’t behave themselves

Surely alcohol fuelled violence, however significant, is only a part of the dynamic? It's the sense of entitlement elements of our fans hold in that they believe it's ok ( drunk or not) to act oafishly.Dont Know if it's a northern territorial RL thing but doesn't appear to happen in RU ( could have separate debate on that one!)
I'm no angel but language is at times cringeworthy but seems magnified on trips to London/Perpignan and not confined to youngsters.

Good point by Kenty

What is also quite marked is that a lot of the time, the oafish behaviour is carried out by people old enough to know better!