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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:36 am 
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I can’t see Green, Hadley or Litten playing again for Hull.
I’m assuming it’s because all 3 are leaving and that’s the reason I’d drop Westerman. He hasn’t had a good game for about 2 months since he signed for Wakefield and doesn’t look interested.

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I don’t buy into the fatigue claim. Like what’s been said we’re a team of professional athletes with the best recovery systems available.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:00 am 
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Hadley and Litten to Rovers this week with immediate affect






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 Post subject: Re: WIGAN
PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:03 am 
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I don't understand how people "don't buy" the fatigue claim? It's shown time and time again to be a factor following big games. How much more proof do you need?

That semi will have been physically draining. Players will not have fully recovered from their efforts. It will also have been mentally draining as emotions were high and it was a close game.
All of those factors will come into play on Thursday. Those 1%ers matter against to teams.

Unless Wigan have a shocker, I just can't see us having enough in the tank to win. I hope I'm wrong.






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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:13 am 
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MorningGlory23 wrote:I honestly can’t get behind the excuses of lacking in energy after 4/5 days rest, super fit professional athletes, unless injured, should be raring to go


I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a bit unclear on this.

As they are professional athletes, they have much less body fat to protect their muscles and impact fatigue and bruising takes a little longer to heal. Not sure if it’s still the case but the day after a game many teams would do a session of basic movement in a swimming pool to avoid direct impact in training, help the lactic acid work through and to have some element of resistance.

Now, if you really think that this is not a factor for Hull, having played a high intensity game in wet conditions, to turn around in just five days, when their opposition will have had 14 days without a game, then I suggest you think again.






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Thats right MMJ They usually go straight to total Fitness the day after a game and do a swimming and water walking session before spending some time in hydro therapy






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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a bit unclear on this.

As they are professional athletes, they have much less body fat to protect their muscles and impact fatigue and bruising takes a little longer to heal. Not sure if it’s still the case but the day after a game many teams would do a session of basic movement in a swimming pool to avoid direct impact in training, help the lactic acid work through and to have some element of resistance.

Now, if you really think that this is not a factor for Hull, having played a high intensity game in wet conditions, to turn around in just five days, when their opposition will have had 14 days without a game, then I suggest you think again.

Benefit of the doubt not required thank you, although I have thought about it and I stick by my original post, for 2 reasons, 1 been having watched the game back on tv, it really wasn’t that intense, 2 we lost, majority of poor performances after been in a so called energy, mental zapping game, Is from been on the booze a couple of days celebrating. If your theory was correct, surely no team would be able to string a few quality performances together in a row :IDEA:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:15 am 
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Even tougher for us this time round.

Wigan won in a canter against Wakey a week last Thursday.

We won a very tight contest at Leeds three days later, no doubt had an intense weeks build up to the semi, anybody who thought it wasn't intense should sit closer to the touchline !!

Be tremendous if we can beat the pies, 6 points clear with 5 left but not disastrous if we don't. Then we can lick wounds and go all out in the last 5. I thought Savelio had broken his foot ? IF we let two go out to KR which looks like common sense, will that free up enough cap space to bring someone in for the back end ??

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This is a pivotal game if we have any chance of achieving 2nd and with it the home game against Wire in the playoffs.

I don't think a loss would hurt our chances of 3rd too much as we have a run of 3 games against weaker teams after this.

With Wire having the distraction of the CC final coming up I'm still optimistic we can steal 2nd and maybe, just maybe get that elusive Grand Final place.






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It’d be interesting to see how many times the same 17 players backed up a 5 day turn around for Saints and won both games.

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MorningGlory23 wrote:Benefit of the doubt not required thank you, although I have thought about it and I stick by my original post, for 2 reasons, 1 been having watched the game back on tv, it really wasn’t that intense, 2 we lost, majority of poor performances after been in a so called energy, mental zapping game, Is from been on the booze a couple of days celebrating. If your theory was correct, surely no team would be able to string a few quality performances together in a row :IDEA:


Really??? That happened after the 2016 CC final. Not sure of any other occasion when that was the case.

If you don't thing playing in a semi and having to bring the ball out from near your own line for the majority of the game against a high line speed defence isn't intense, then I would ask you to describe what is?

My theory is RL practice. Usually its a relatively even playing field as both teams usually have a similar turn around (6/7 days).

The point you have not recognised is that Wigan have just about three times the turn around time.






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