FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Squad players



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:53 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Jan 20 2010
Posts: 2152
Marcus's Bicycle wrote:Walker promising. Hanbury no chance. Cunningham, yes, very good player.

Mellor would be good cover in the halves to, which we clearly need

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:33 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8251
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
To be fair I think it's a little harsh to say the squad players such as Fash, Matongo, Downs, Lane, Harris etc aren't up to it. Squad players/young up and coming players are normally only usually played when resting players to rotate the squad. This season due to not only the number of injuries we have but also the length of time players have been out has meant the group of young squad players have had to play far more games than they are ready for at SL level. They're up to the job for a game or two but not week in week out like they have had to. That has taken its toll on them this season. The positive is the experience for next season will be so valuable.
My only concern with the squad is the likes of Green struggles with injuries and so have Mini & Manu this season plus the latter two will be another year older next and we've retained them plus Washy. For me we lack another forward and would love someone to come in like Murdoch Masila or Fafita as since losing Watts on top of Ellis retiring we look too soft.
Also we really have to address the poor attacking options as we are just so predictable it's too easy to defend against us.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:00 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29803
Location: West Yorkshire
Chris71 wrote:To be fair I think it's a little harsh to say the squad players such as Fash, Matongo, Downs, Lane, Harris etc aren't up to it. Squad players/young up and coming players are normally only usually played when resting players to rotate the squad. This season due to not only the number of injuries we have but also the length of time players have been out has meant the group of young squad players have had to play far more games than they are ready for at SL level. They're up to the job for a game or two but not week in week out like they have had to. That has taken its toll on them this season. The positive is the experience for next season will be so valuable.
My only concern with the squad is the likes of Green struggles with injuries and so have Mini & Manu this season plus the latter two will be another year older next and we've retained them plus Washy. For me we lack another forward and would love someone to come in like Murdoch Masila or Fafita as since losing Watts on top of Ellis retiring we look too soft.
Also we really have to address the poor attacking options as we are just so predictable it's too easy to defend against us.


I'm not that surprised our attack is easy to defend against. We have neither our best creative personnel available in the halves with Kelly, Connor, Sneyd and Westerman on the sidelines, nor a dominant pack to mitigate the impact of this. We have 2 issues this year. One is hopefully temporary in the ridiculous injuries to our pivots, such that we are going into the next round with probably our 6th and 7th choice halves in Miloudi and Harris. The other is more fundamental though in that the quality of the pack which brought rich rewards in the last 2 years is diluted. Taylor has been utterly magnificent this term, playing with a dodgy shoulder and never taking a backward step. Beyond him, though, it's hard to pick out a stand out forward. Paea has been OK, but a shadow of Ellis. Bowden and Green have been unavailable. Watts has left a gaping hole in the pack. Mini, Hadley and Manu have been hampered by hernias and injuries, and Westerman looked good but in a brief cameo only. In my view we need to play the long game, get all the operations done now so that everyone (bar Bowden) is back in on the first day of pre season ready. Knowing our luck this year though Taylor and Connor will get selected for England squad and not used but will therefore not return until January and we'll pick up more injuries in the remaining 5 fixtures. I'd really be looking to protect our senior players now to give us the best pre season possible.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:58 pm 
Club Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Nov 28 2004
Posts: 3378
Chris71 wrote:To be fair I think it's a little harsh to say the squad players such as Fash, Matongo, Downs, Lane, Harris etc aren't up to it. Squad players/young up and coming players are normally only usually played when resting players to rotate the squad. This season due to not only the number of injuries we have but also the length of time players have been out has meant the group of young squad players have had to play far more games than they are ready for at SL level. They're up to the job for a game or two but not week in week out like they have had to. That has taken its toll on them this season. The positive is the experience for next season will be so valuable.
My only concern with the squad is the likes of Green struggles with injuries and so have Mini & Manu this season plus the latter two will be another year older next and we've retained them plus Washy. For me we lack another forward and would love someone to come in like Murdoch Masila or Fafita as since losing Watts on top of Ellis retiring we look too soft.
Also we really have to address the poor attacking options as we are just so predictable it's too easy to defend against us.


This ^^^^^

Good post + we would of hopefully only had to use one or two young squad players at a time, rather than almost half your team week in and week out.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:11 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29803
Location: West Yorkshire
Is Matongo injured?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:11 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25911
Location: Back in Hull.
I think the squad players are fine, as others have said it's the senior players are letting us down.

We weren't far off on Friday and than was without our 4 most important attacking players, take that away from any team and I think they will struggle.

Saying that I think Radford is making mistakes with his team selection, both Miloudi and Litten should be playing, we are struggling to score and these both offer an attacking threat.

I think we have to make some tough decisions for next season, I'd look to release either Talanoa, Paea or both and bring in one attacking forward.

Two of the big decisions sit around around Shaul and Houghton, unless Shaul improves his link up play in the off season, then I'd start Connor at FB next season and I think it's time for Houghton to stop playing the full 80, that's why giving Litten some game time in nothing games would be ideal.

Radford needs to learn, take some risks and adapt our style or I feel he could be under threat my Easter next year.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:01 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Apr 04 2014
Posts: 7828
I dont think Shaul can improve his link up play.He has had several seasons now to do it and i see no improvement.
We would be a different attacking team even with an average Aussie like Quinlan at full back.
Shaul seems to take the ball up from acting half a lot more which Houghton should be doing but he is burnt out in my opinion.Surely this is a perfect time to give Litten extended game time or use Shaul as a back up 9.
I am not a Miloudi fan especially as a full back but he was far more of a threat on the wing than Talanoa.Even taking the ball up he seemed to make more metres than Talanoa who i keep saying takes the ball standing still.
I think Radford is under threat now never mind next Easter.
We are likely to go 0-11.Any other Super League coach with those stats would have been shown the door irrespective of squad injuries.
Just wonder what Gaz Ellis now on the coaching staff will bring to the table

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:57 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25911
Location: Back in Hull.
Injuries are playing a part, but our confidence has gone, plus we are playing for nothing against Sides like Wakey (Last game of the season) and Hudds who still have something to fight for.

We need a win, it doesn't matter who or how we get it but it will do us a world of good, think it will come against a tired Warrington side in a couple of weeks and I think we will also beat Catalans at home, think these wins are important we don't want to go into next season on the back of a massive losing run.

If we we lose everygame this season, Radford has earnt the chance to turn things around next season.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:00 pm 
International Star
New Signing

Joined: Apr 01 2012
Posts: 81
hull linked to young halfback tom holmes from fev just been released

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Squad players
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:10 pm 
Club Owner
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Mar 27 2004
Posts: 17348
Chris Green injured again, out for the season. Really need to move him on, no room for sentiment with the salary cap

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 25 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next





It is currently Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:11 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Chris71, Google Adsense [Bot], K-Diddy, Mild Rover, Seph and 184 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:11 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
11m
Film game
karetaker
7141
14m
London or Goole in cup
WT_Midlander
39
15m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64337
23m
Doncaster CC H
Bent&Bon
44
23m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Choc Ice
3112
49m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41437
Recent
2025 Leigh Leopards
ColD
17
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4751
Recent
Lino
Trojan Horse
14
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2979
Recent
Challenge cup
dddooommm
10
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
57
Recent
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2928
Recent
Pre-season
ArthurClues
78
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4751
2s
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2928
6s
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
14s
London or Goole in cup
WT_Midlander
39
19s
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
29097
19s
Vegas Baby
Huddersfield
63
24s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64337
32s
Leeds friendly
chapylad
39
43s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2979
1m
Doncaster CC H
Bent&Bon
44
1m
Challenge cup
dddooommm
10
1m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41437
1m
Film game
karetaker
7141
1m
Gale testimonial v Cas
phe13
72
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
3123
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
TODAY
Fans Forum 2025
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Donny game off
The Phantom
4
TODAY
Injuries at start of season Jacob Miller
Murphy
1
TODAY
Maika Sivo - Season Ending Injury
chapylad
29
TODAY
Lino
Trojan Horse
14
TODAY
HJ spruce-up
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
Very one sided results today
glee
1
TODAY
Comfortable Ash Handley Testimonial Win For Leeds Over Wigan
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Workington Town Set Up Leigh Leopards Clash With Win Over the Navy
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Kids shirt
the-bearded-
1
TODAY
Historic Goole Vikings Win Over London Broncos In Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Williams on conquering Everest
Or thane
2
TODAY
Thatto Heath
terry silver
8
TODAY
Social media
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
ISA Retires
[Gareth]
21
TODAY
New deal for Farrell
MadDogg
6
TODAY
The Ginger Pearl
jonh
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers Revealed 2025
LeythIg
8
TODAY
1895 Cup 2025
Brew
4
TODAY
Goole Vikings
RfE
46
TODAY
1895 Cup
dddooommm
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
555
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
389
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
508
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
807
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
817
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
874
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1351
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2083
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2200
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
1986
New Roles for HULL KR...
1929
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
2094
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
2221
Captains Challenge for Televis..
2287
England Women Las Vegas train-..
2324
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 2nd Feb
CC2025
15:00
Keighley-York
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Sun 26th Jan
CC2025 2 Bradford30-4Doncaster
CC2025 2 Barrow86-6Cros
CC2025 2 BlackB12-34Ince R
CC2025 2 Cornwall0-52Crusaders
CC2025 2 Halifax48-6Thatto Heath
CC2025 2 Midlands46-0Siddal
CC2025 2 Newcastle0-54Batley
CC2025 2 Oldham60-10Rochdale M
CC2025 2 Rochdale16-34Widnes
CC2025 2 Royal Navy0-56Workington
CC2025 2 Sheffield62-0W BOWL
Sat 25th Jan
CC2025 2 LondonB10-17Goole V
CC2025 2 DewM6-50Dewsbury
CC2025 2 York A22-2OultonR
CC2025 2 HUN A18-24West Hull
CC2025 2 Lock L10-50Hunslet
CC2025 2 Water W10-88Featherstone
CC2025 2 WEST W36-18Army
CC2025 2 Whitehaven24-12Swinton
Sun 19th Jan
CC2025 1 Thatto Heath28-24Orrell
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
11m
Film game
karetaker
7141
14m
London or Goole in cup
WT_Midlander
39
15m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64337
23m
Doncaster CC H
Bent&Bon
44
23m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Choc Ice
3112
49m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41437
Recent
2025 Leigh Leopards
ColD
17
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4751
Recent
Lino
Trojan Horse
14
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2979
Recent
Challenge cup
dddooommm
10
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
57
Recent
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2928
Recent
Pre-season
ArthurClues
78
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Tarquin Fueg
4751
2s
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2928
6s
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
14s
London or Goole in cup
WT_Midlander
39
19s
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
29097
19s
Vegas Baby
Huddersfield
63
24s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64337
32s
Leeds friendly
chapylad
39
43s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2979
1m
Doncaster CC H
Bent&Bon
44
1m
Challenge cup
dddooommm
10
1m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41437
1m
Film game
karetaker
7141
1m
Gale testimonial v Cas
phe13
72
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
3123
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Caius Faatili signs
FIL
33
TODAY
Fans Forum 2025
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Donny game off
The Phantom
4
TODAY
Injuries at start of season Jacob Miller
Murphy
1
TODAY
Maika Sivo - Season Ending Injury
chapylad
29
TODAY
Lino
Trojan Horse
14
TODAY
HJ spruce-up
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
Very one sided results today
glee
1
TODAY
Comfortable Ash Handley Testimonial Win For Leeds Over Wigan
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Workington Town Set Up Leigh Leopards Clash With Win Over the Navy
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Kids shirt
the-bearded-
1
TODAY
Historic Goole Vikings Win Over London Broncos In Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Williams on conquering Everest
Or thane
2
TODAY
Thatto Heath
terry silver
8
TODAY
Social media
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
ISA Retires
[Gareth]
21
TODAY
New deal for Farrell
MadDogg
6
TODAY
The Ginger Pearl
jonh
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers Revealed 2025
LeythIg
8
TODAY
1895 Cup 2025
Brew
4
TODAY
Goole Vikings
RfE
46
TODAY
1895 Cup
dddooommm
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
555
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
389
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
508
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
807
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
817
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
874
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1351
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2083
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2200
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
1986
New Roles for HULL KR...
1929
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
2094
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
2221
Captains Challenge for Televis..
2287
England Women Las Vegas train-..
2324


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.