Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:22 pm
bonaire
International Star
Joined: Apr 04 2014 Posts: 7839
Chris71 wrote:Agree with Dave K its not just about penalties and errors but its also where and when they were being made that cost us.
We also need to improve our attacking threat as far too often we relied on a bit of Kelly magic, we need better options for the runner as far too often a break was made and there was no one was in support. We also seem to have far too deep a line going forward as we have gone 15-20 metres backwards from PTB so when the tackle is made we are actaully no further forward than where the ball was played.
I don't think it major changes just more tweaks and adjustments.
Our deep line in attack for me is why we are so poor in the opposition 20.It give the defence so much extra time to cover the attack. Also too many of our players take the ball up from a standing start rather than in motion.
Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:45 pm
PCollinson1990
Club Captain
Joined: Jan 02 2017 Posts: 1401
bonaire wrote:Our deep line in attack for me is why we are so poor in the opposition 20.It give the defence so much extra time to cover the attack. Also too many of our players take the ball up from a standing start rather than in motion.
Valid points, but that’s how Lee wants them to play, we lack pace because he prefers power, we must have some of the slowest centres/wings in SL.
Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:31 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30474
Our passing of the ball is still abysmal. We don't have enough dummy runners and our backing up is poor. We simply don;t score enough tries compared to other top sides. Add in inconsistent discipline and defensive frailties at times and you can see where we've fallen down. Having said that, we've won 2 CC's on the trot and had 2 top 4 finishes in a row. I dare say that had we not got to wembley we probably would (should) have won the SL title in at least one of the last 2 years.
I think we have a good squad of players who are capable of winning the GF but we're not putting together the performances in the league that we've seen in the cup
Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:27 pm
hull2524
Player Coach
Joined: May 06 2009 Posts: 7406
the way radders has had us play has won us 2 CC finals, a few tweaks here and there is all that's needed, I think abdull coming in could be our missing element as he is a ball handler something we properly are missing,
once a black and white always a black and white COYH
Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:17 am
PCollinson1990
Club Captain
Joined: Jan 02 2017 Posts: 1401
ccs wrote:I think wigan might have just managed it (with 8 wins) and saints certainly have as well.
bang on, hadn't realised Wigan won 8 on the trot (87-95), and then Saints 3 (2006-2008), when you look at the CC history there's a fair few teams that aren't anywhere near SL anymore!
Post subject: Re: what needs to change for us to be champions?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:39 am
Tarquin Fuego
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 03 2004 Posts: 3738 Location: United Kingdom
We sponsor Melbourne Storm and at our annual conference Craig Bellamy came to do a talk and Q&A for 30 mins I took a lot of notes and will ping them to AP It's pretty clear he's modelled on Bill Belichick at Patriots He's crazy for the 1%s and working so hard on all the basics and knowing your job and sticking to it like your life depends on it That's why Defence wins GFs and is a reflection of the team ethos Missed tackles are a major gauge of that
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