a key thing for me will be Pryce & Sneyd have settled into the squad, especially Sneyd

Failure, 6th or lower, not getting close to the play-offs and not reaching the semi final in the cup
Acceptable, 4th or strong 5th close enough to get us into the play offs & CC semi final appearance
Success, 1st/2nd/3rd and maintaining one of those positions to the play offs, reaching final of the CC

The challenge cup predictions are silly, you need some luck and what it you draw Leeds away first round and have loads on injuries.

As others have said at least 6th, but be closer to the 4 for a real crack at the play offs. Leeds and Wigan should be top two, but don't think Leeds will be as strong, Sinfield and Peacock are massive for them and it depends if they sign a hooker or not. I reckon we have a really decent chance of the top 4.

Get what your saying about cup predictions Dave, but, nothing wrong with making it a real focus/goal from the start and making every sure every cup game is approached with a 'cup final' attitude.

Think most would agree finishing top or winning the GF is highly unlikely so in reality the CC is the only silverware to go for? In which case I want to see us spill blood in ever round trying to win it.

Granted Leeds away in 1st round may potentially ruin it anyway!

success would definately be top 4

would be expecting a top 6

anything less would be disappointing

not making the 8 would be failure

can't include the cup in this as a good run can depend on the luck of the draw

Surely by definition winning against SL opposition in the cup is what should be expected/classified as success no? Losing before getting to at least a semi final would be seen as failure, to look at it any other way is either defeatist or having no faith in the squad/coach

That team should definitely be in top 4 and by round 6 and we are doing crap then RL should go. we don't deserve to have those players if the coach can't make something of them. This will be his 3rd year and to be honest I can see no different to this year. To finish in Super 8 will be like this year. Great players does not make a great team unless you play as one.

We need a good solid start to our league campaign next year.
Winning only 2 from 8 this season left us behind the eight ball with ground to make up which made it really difficult for us.

Totally agree and the sad thing is had Hull started better they would have been up there still now contending as others were unusually poor such as Wire and Cas//Hudds/Cats at times.

We didn't have the easiest of the draw early doors, but still, it wasn't good enough.
Need to build momentum. Get the fans onside. Make the KC as difficult a place for away sides to come too as possible.
Radders and the players were under pressure after that poor start.
Think they deserved some credit for actually getting us into the 8 after such a shoddy start.
Top 6 minimum for me next season otherwise I'd show him the door same as I would have done if we hadn't made the 8 this year.