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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:He still offers more than Michaels and has a much better injury record than Sa, both of which I'd want to see leave ahead of Yeaman. Sa if fit could be brilliant for us, but unfortunately that's a big issue.
I still think Yeaman's worth another year, then replace for 2017.
Michaels is faster
Yeamans Defence is stronger (on the whole)
Yeaman often jumps out of the line leaving his winger exposed
Yeaman rarely puts his winger away.
Not really sure how you can come to that assessment?
Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:One year deal is probably right. Finding one top centre is hard enough without having to replace two in a season.
Sa is better, but only when he's fit. I'd expect both him & Michaels will leave anyway.
Despite a couple of bad games this year, he's nowhere near as bad as some people make out.
Think you have this this wrong way round.Couple of good games the rest poor. Yeaman is the most ineffective centre in SL. Any other coach but Radford would have binned him after this season.
Dave K. wrote:Yeaman is a better Centre, Micheals a better winger.
Overall this season both have been pretty average in whatever position they have played.
True.
But in the context of the thread, were talking about the retention of Yeaman and the alternatives at centre if we didn't retain him.
I'm trying to say that I'd take Yeaman at centre for 2016 ahead of Michaels (who I think isn't as good at centre), or Sa (who's injury record is awful).
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bonaire wrote:Think you have this this wrong way round.Couple of good games the rest poor.
Couple of decent games, a couple of stinkers, the rest average. I know you don't like Yeaman, but let's be fair about it.
bonaire wrote:Yeaman is the most ineffective centre in SL.
Unsubstantiated rubbish.
bonaire wrote:Any other coach but Radford would have binned him after this season
And a Radford dig. Fantastic.
He's nowhere near as bad as you & others make out. We're recruiting a top centre already & we have a decent young centre who's not quite ready, so we need another centre in the squad for 2016.
Our options are: Keep Yeamo Keep Sa Keep Michaels as a centre. Recruit another centre.
For the reasons I've stated in a previous post, I wouldn't retain either Michaels or Sa as centres over Yeaman.
Recruit another centre - is that realistic? Easier said than done. Is there another decent centre on the market other than the one we're already after? We won't pay a fee for one.
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This is one of those signings that will be better judged in the context of our overall recruitment. Of course that a little too measured for some folk.
Yeaman is a solid professional. As a starting centre we could do worse. We could also do a hell of a lot better. However wanting better and finding/affording better are two very different things. If Yeaman is just plugging a gap for a year while we source a replacement then so be it.
yeaman has been poor this season with only a small number of decent performances sprinkled in amongst plenty of bad and average ones. How poor will he be in another year and a half?
UllFC wrote:I'm sure the top4 are bricking it at this blockbuster signing can't pass, can't run very fast, but hey-ho he's the coaches mate so new contract it is.
I'm sure you used to come across fairly reasonable. Nowadays, you come across like a complete one-eye.
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