Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 915 Location: Flying the Black & White Flag in Ripon, North Yorkshire
Yes.
This season started with some of the worst rugby I've seen FC play. We were abysmal. No clue, no idea, no effort.
The Castleford cup game was the start of a revival. Since then, we've started to look like a Super League club again. And that game against KR was a fantastic performance.
I'm still not convinced about Radford, but something has changed, because we look like we give a toss now. The players clearly have an understanding; the effort is there; there is a belief amongst the players.
Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Nah, just papering over the cracks
7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke
5 from 7 if we are comparing against the previous 2 wins from 8 in the league. There's nothing wrong with having doubts, there's nothing wrong with having criticism's, you'll find if you look through the threads of the last several weeks maybe a couple of comments regarding player selection are all the criticism directed at Radford, bar none fans have said we've improved and look nothing like we were previously.
And actually papering over the cracks with shaky unconvincing wins WAS exctly that, our attack was dire, if it weren't for some great solid defence and some individual brilliance we'd have being fooked. Yes the results were inportant in those games we pulled out wins, some might even say fortunate but a win is a win. However you can only get away with that so many times hence why fans were saying those wins were papering over the cracks, the cracks of our lame attack. That's now (hopefully) being fixed, fans have more confidence going into games, we are applauding better structure and backing up, thoughtful rugby whereas before we just didn't have that by comparison add onto that more desire and you have what we have now.
Instead of the continuance of attacking fans/posters whom post their critical thoughts openly about how we've being (notice past tense) and Radford's inability to coach us over the last 18 months (& rightly so) why not stick to the here and now so we can all focus on discussing the improved performances and the usual minutea of following our team.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:5 from 7 if we are comparing against the previous 2 wins from 8 in the league. There's nothing wrong with having doubts, there's nothing wrong with having criticism's, you'll find if you look through the threads of the last several weeks maybe a couple of comments regarding player selection are all the criticism directed at Radford, bar none fans have said we've improved and look nothing like we were previously.
And actually papering over the cracks with shaky unconvincing wins WAS exctly that, our attack was dire, if it weren't for some great solid defence and some individual brilliance we'd have being fooked. Yes the results were inportant in those games we pulled out wins, some might even say fortunate but a win is a win. However you can only get away with that so many times hence why fans were saying those wins were papering over the cracks, the cracks of our lame attack. That's now (hopefully) being fixed, fans have more confidence going into games, we are applauding better structure and backing up, thoughtful rugby whereas before we just didn't have that by comparison add onto that more desire and you have what we have now.
Instead of the continuance of attacking fans/posters whom post their critical thoughts openly about how we've being (notice past tense) and Radford's inability to coach us over the last 18 months (& rightly so) why not stick to the here and now so we can all focus on discussing the improved performances and the usual minutea of following our team.
You must have missed the winky face Bumpy. I was kidding with the cracks comments. You're a very serious individual aren't you?
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For me it's less about the 7 from 9, more about 3 from 4 and the manner of those 4. Much better, and whilst I'm still hesitant to consider the corner turned until it carries on a bit longer (probably a dollop of pessimism and lack of confidence in there), the fact that a case can even be made for it now is a massive improvement in itself.
Huge credit to Radford for being big enough to change his approach and our style.
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke
It's actually possible to do both.
I don't think there's any doubt that a corner has been turned and we're heading in the right direction. Still likely to be a few bumps along the way, mind, but the outlook is unrecognisably more positive than a few weeks ago. If we can go to Widnes next week and come away with a win then I might start believing that we can make the 8 for the first time in a long while.
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:You must have missed the winky face Bumpy. I was kidding with the cracks comments. You're a very serious individual aren't you?
About certain things of course, aren't you? I say stuff with conviction and make sure I'm clear about what I say and why, if that's what you mean, how is one supposed to post regarding things like the clubs progress given how it effects everything that is discussed here?
Do you not think being in freefall and turmoil playing micturate poor rugby it's always serious? Those of us with it in our blood are effected by how we perform, that shows in the way people post on the forum when you discuss the problems/failures.
We can enjoy and let go when things are going great as now but to dig up stuff given the spats on here isn't particularly funny considering the bile and disgusting words used by some posters just because they didn't agree with comments by others.
We're definitely better with the ball and it actually looks like the players see each other between games. Hopefully we can get a win on Thursday which should see us in with a really good shout of the top 8
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