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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:21 am 
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Whilst big Frank maybe didn't offer enough value for money he did provide a certain amount of impact when he came on, even if it just gave the opposition a bit of doubt.
Feel we need an impact type of player to come on and give the team a lift, be that a wrecking ball or a fresh hooker, and we don't currently have that.
Kelly will give us creativity on his return, but think we still need someone to come off the bench and raise the tempo.

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 Post subject: Re: Impact player
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:02 pm 
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Irregular Hoops wrote:Whilst big Frank maybe didn't offer enough value for money he did provide a certain amount of impact when he came on, even if it just gave the opposition a bit of doubt.
Feel we need an impact type of player to come on and give the team a lift, be that a wrecking ball or a fresh hooker, and we don't currently have that.
Kelly will give us creativity on his return, but think we still need someone to come off the bench and raise the tempo.

But you can't have that extra 'impact' player unless you lose more players to pay for that quality.
We don't have any cap space and players of any worth are contracted, we are stuck with what we have.
Also Pritchard rarely had that much impact, certainly not a patch on Willie Manu or Jamie Thackery as impact bench players go.

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 Post subject: Re: Impact player
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I think it's more that we don't have anything different off the bench just similar but not as good as what we start with. Add in the poor rotation of the back row and it leaves us weaker than we might otherwise be






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Agree with Jake more to do with use of rotations than who is on the bench.

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 Post subject: Re: Impact player
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:17 am 
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Could be the intention was to start Hadley with Manu on the bench. I wouldn't mind Watts on the bench either but he's too good to leave there for long.

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 Post subject: Re: Impact player
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:23 am 
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We like to start hard and finish hard. It seems a deliberate strategy by the coaches so our starting team and our bench are structured to deliver that. If we are to also have a barnstorming middle period then we'd need to either sacrifice some impact at other times or sign a player or two. I'm not hearing any names so it seems we'd have to change our approach. I think that Ellis could start on the bench and then come on and shake things up when we need him. It would also help keep him healthy over a long season.

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Losing Watts for 10 of the last 15 minutes was never going to help our cause.






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C for Cuckoo wrote:We like to start hard and finish hard. It seems a deliberate strategy by the coaches so our starting team and our bench are structured to deliver that. If we are to also have a barnstorming middle period then we'd need to either sacrifice some impact at other times or sign a player or two. I'm not hearing any names so it seems we'd have to change our approach. I think that Ellis could start on the bench and then come on and shake things up when we need him. It would also help keep him healthy over a long season.


That's exactly it. Spoke with a coach before and bench was discussed and he saiD exactly that.
I'd personally have Mini on bench. Has that up tempo style to add some energy and give us a boost if needed. Maybe find some tired D with his fresh legs






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When fit would start Hadley and have one of Ellis or mini or manu on bench. Hadley is strong and reliable . Will allow us to spell the others






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Jake the Peg wrote:I think it's more that we don't have anything different off the bench just similar but not as good as what we start with. Add in the poor rotation of the back row and it leaves us weaker than we might otherwise be


Maybe Radford should think about using his first choice front row ie Taylor and Watts on the bench for selected games and introducing them as the impact after 20 mins or so.
Add Ellis also coming off the bench with those two and we would have impact.
Its a tactic used occasionally by Daryl Powell to good effect.
It would also put pressure and more responsibility on Bowden and Green and may help their game having to start and play longer minutes than normal.

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