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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 6:16 am 
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Trinity have given permission for some of the oerformance stats they gather on players to be published by the guys that do the excellent Wakefield Trinity heritage podcast. They make for interesting reading, in particular highlighting how dominant our pack has been.
https://twitter.com/WTHeritagePod/status/1790983653629047152?t=_FEqneWyFdIoG0tF-dTKfg&s=19
Trinity have given permission for some of the oerformance stats they gather on players to be published by the guys that do the excellent Wakefield Trinity heritage podcast. They make for interesting reading, in particular highlighting how dominant our pack has been.
https://twitter.com/WTHeritagePod/status/1790983653629047152?t=_FEqneWyFdIoG0tF-dTKfg&s=19

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 9:00 am 
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That just shows how dominant our forwards are against 2 of the better teams in the league, plus Olpherts defying quite a few of his critics with his numbers :thumb:






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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 9:33 am 
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financialtimes wrote:That just shows how dominant our forwards are against 2 of the better teams in the league, plus Olpherts defying quite a few of his critics with his numbers :thumb:


It was obvious to most of the fans that Olpherts had value and the reason he was brought in. I think it’s more because some people seem to really push and state Franco though i don’t know why what I have seen.






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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 10:03 am 
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Uele and Rodwell really make a difference when they come on.






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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 10:18 am 
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Khlav Kalash wrote:Uele and Rodwell really make a difference when they come on.

I noticed that...on the face of it they're outperforming the two starting props, but I suspect that's because they're coming on against the opposition replacements when in reality those two would make the starting line up of any other team in the competition (and a few SL sides!).

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 10:33 am 
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Spot on. You don't have to start your best two props do you, just maximise their assets. You get the feeling Rodwell could play 80 but doesn't need to. And as a player seeing Uele come off the back fence after 25 minutes would be horrible.

We knew what we were getting with Olpherts and he's proving it. In his best season at Cas he was in the top 5 in all of SL for metres made. But his hands aren't the best (yes, he took everything at Odsal, fair play to him), and his inside shoulder is a bit soft. Nice the have the option though isn't it - IMO McGillvary should start every game, then we play Walmsley whenever we know we can play expansively (pretty much every game), and put Olpherts in again physically big teams on small, wet pitches to get us out of trouble but rarely get exposed on a thin pitch.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 10:57 am 
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Khlav Kalash wrote:Uele and Rodwell really make a difference when they come on.


Rodwell is an absolute workhorse, taking 2 drives a set and just fights for every metre, he just doesn't go away I think will go very well in SL.

Looking at Uele's stats it's actually surprising how much he gets through, I have been impressed that he punches holes in the line almost every time he takes the ball up, but with that type of player you usually see them not getting though as much, it just goes to show the stuff that coaches really value sometimes isn't picked up when watching the game.

These 2 are players I have no doubt will be effective in SL, and I imagine they will only get better as they settle and get used to the game over here.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 11:45 am 
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To me those stats show how valuable Bowden is. He's less spectacular than the others but his work rate is easily the highest and is always good quality.
He is the one that leads the pack in my opinion.






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PopTart wrote:To me those stats show how valuable Bowden is. He's less spectacular than the others but his work rate is easily the highest and is always good quality.
He is the one that leads the pack in my opinion.


That`s an interesting take PT, how do you get to the fact Bowden`s work rate is easily the highest?

Just looking at the last 6 games the front rowers have played in;

Bowden
Carries - 54
Metres - 496
PC metres - 162
Tackles - 98

Rodwell
Carries - 69
Metres - 643
PC metres - 213
Tackles - 146

Uele
Carries - 65
Metres - 649
PC metres - 255
Tackles - 118

Atoni
Carries - 61
Metres - 589
PC metres - 210
Tackles - 109

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 12:57 pm 
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homme vaste wrote:Rodwell is an absolute workhorse, taking 2 drives a set and just fights for every metre, he just doesn't go away I think will go very well in SL.

Looking at Uele's stats it's actually surprising how much he gets through, I have been impressed that he punches holes in the line almost every time he takes the ball up, but with that type of player you usually see them not getting though as much, it just goes to show the stuff that coaches really value sometimes isn't picked up when watching the game.

These 2 are players I have no doubt will be effective in SL, and I imagine they will only get better as they settle and get used to the game over here.

I'd add Vagana to those as well who will just get better as the season goes on. It's a shame though he got injured when he did especially as he looked like he was getting into his stride after coming in so late. Looking at his stats compared to the others, they stack up pretty well. He seems to average about 9 meters a carry and makes good past contact meters and when needed he can get through the tackles.

His stats in the games he played before the injury are-
Carries 47 metres 459 Post Contact 169 Tackles 143


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