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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:05 am 
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Just an observation with regards our near neighbours Castleford and their IMG score. They have indeed indicated based on several assumptions for which they have not got final figures for to accurately calculate their score and that they have enough to receive an A rating. If this is the case why are they not investing in new players and why start selling season tickets so early, are they trying to maximise their earnings before the final placing are announced just in case they got it wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:33 am 
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I don't understand why people are taking the mick out of or criticising Cas. They have basically read the criteria and worked out how they can achieve as many points as they can by spending as littlie as possible, to me that is just good business and common sense.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:58 am 
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altofts wildcat wrote:I don't understand why people are taking the mick out of or criticising Cas. They have basically read the criteria and worked out how they can achieve as many points as they can by spending as littlie as possible, to me that is just good business and common sense.


I agree.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:30 am 
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I actually wish them well but wanted to point out the flaw in their SL statement and why it appears they do not actually believe it themselves. If we are honest, that other than those receiving a provisional A rating are sure of their place. I am sure all teams have some idea of their score but not how it compares to the other clubs.

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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:37 am 
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They can work it out for others to a certain extent. It would take a bit of effort but you can estimate most of it.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:03 am 
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PopTart wrote:They can work it out for others to a certain extent. It would take a bit of effort but you can estimate most of it.


Looking at the handbook it’s pretty easy like you say to work out what Trinity are most likely going to score. A lot of it is clear cut thresholds.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:06 pm 
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Our performance score looks pretty good to say we were relegated

Assuming everyone in Super League finishes where they are now, we would get a score of 2.7427. The same as we got last time.
That's assuming we win the grand final which puts us in 13th place on the ladder.
By winning the Grand Final we then get extra bonus points for just this year of 0.35 (1895 and Grand Final)

Which would be 3.0927 out of a possible 5

That puts us in a good position given the increase in stadium score.

Its hard to say what the final number is as I don't know the financials for our Community Foundation and I didn't go back and look at the previous years financials as both are an average of the past 3 years.
I think a big differential will be the social media Fandom section which is completely within our control. We need to be liking and sharing all those posts across all platforms.
But we are strong in the financial area and only getting stronger. A lot of other teams will be losing points in this area.

But given the bits I do know, I think we'll be heading for a 14.5 type number. maybe higher but not a 15 yet.
Another year of financial stability and we could be pushing for a 15.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:29 am 
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Eamonn McManus has just revealed that Saints lost £1.319.274 in 2013 and is projected to see a further increase in losses in 2024.Due to smaller central distributions deriving from reduced broadcasting rights income. If a club like Saints are finding it impossible to run a successful team without being subsidised by a wealthy owner, the future for clubs without an owner with deep pockets doesn't look promising !

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:56 am 
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MC_Wildcat wrote:Eamonn McManus has just revealed that Saints lost £1.319.274 in 2013 and is projected to see a further increase in losses in 2024.Due to smaller central distributions deriving from reduced broadcasting rights income. If a club like Saints are finding it impossible to run a successful team without being subsidised by a wealthy owner, the future for clubs without an owner with deep pockets doesn't look promising !


We made profits before Ellis came in.
What they need is a Carter to stop them spending what they haven't got.






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 Post subject: Re: IMG scores
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:40 am 
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PopTart wrote:We made profits before Ellis came in.
What they need is a Carter to stop them spending what they haven't got.


Agreed. You can’t spend more than what comes in or this is what happens. You either have to subsidise us with deep pockets or cut your cloth accordingly.






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