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Trojan Horse wrote:Macgillivray I think purely on his last Seasons form. He’s been quiet all year I think and not broke many pots. Hall is one of those big game players in my opinion that can raise his game for an England performance. Eventually though the younger next generation wingers Johnstone, charnley amongst them will get the chance soon enough. I think TJ and charnley would have been the better option to see how they perform on a big stage and see if they’re capable of raising their game for the international scene. But I’ve a feeling bennet is all about results to justify his position than building a future England team.
Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.
I agree that Charnley and Johnstone would be better than Hall & McGilvray. About 90% of Hall's tries seem to be finishes within the last 10metres. How often do you see long range tries from him. He's not the speediest of wingers. McGilvray "came of age " in the World Cup and didn't seem to be quite as effective up to his absence
Joined: Jun 01 2015 Posts: 2951 Location: The sunny South (of Wakefield)
As per the title of this thread, I don't think you'll see any of our players receive international honours whilst they're wearing the Trinity jersey, unfortunately.
Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.
Tom's time will come when he gets some better service. If he was at a club like saints he'd have scored a bucketful more tries and he'd be going on the plane.
Trinity1315 wrote:Tom's time will come when he gets some better service. If he was at a club like saints he'd have scored a bucketful more tries and he'd be going on the plane.
Spot on mate...the difference with Tom this season is that he is not getting the ball in space like he did last year...he spends most of his time running it back in from an opposition kick down field, or just getting the ball a few metres out from the opposition line and then finishing it off (in style, I must admit) in the corner. We don't seem to be able to get the ball out to him in space, so that he can score the long-distance classy tries that he was scoring for fun last year - not his fault, but he is not being given the opportunities to showcase his undoubted talents, so is not grabbing the headlines that we all know he is capable of.
Without wishing to putting the cat amongst the pigeons the Form player for me so far this season isn’t tom or Reece its woody. Tom’s a young lad and he’ll get a crack at an England or GB call up sooner or later . Reece is a cracking club player but lacks that X factor to make him stand out from the crowd and fullfil his early career potential. Poor woody is playing out of his skin week in week out but will no doubt just be seen as a great club player. Just my opinion of course .
Form doesn't come into it with Bennett, Geg Eden scored over 40 tries last year (a lot of them top draw finishes) but that wasn't good enough for Wayno.
What I don’t get with the international set up is playing players out of position to where they play for their club. We had Sculthorpe who was loose forward for saint put in the stand off position and sinfield who was loose at Leeds put in the hooker position. Now we have Bateman who is second row playing at centre ,even Wayne says he’s only playing him at second row because of injuries .
Kettykat wrote:Without wishing to putting the cat amongst the pigeons the Form player for me so far this season isn’t tom or Reece its woody. Tom’s a young lad and he’ll get a crack at an England or GB call up sooner or later . Reece is a cracking club player but lacks that X factor to make him stand out from the crowd and fullfil his early career potential. Poor woody is playing out of his skin week in week out but will no doubt just be seen as a great club player. Just my opinion of course .
Agree about Woody. He's one of the few players we have who are capable of turning a game around, as he so nearly did last weekend.
you only have to look at our league position to see we haven't any players hitting the inform button week in week out to get selected, saying that there has been a few selected from other clubs that makes you wonder how they have managed to get in
I agree on both of your points there Kettycat, regarding Woody and players out of position.
Problem with the hooking role, there is already Houghton, Roby, Clark and Hodgson, who he is in competition with, who are all good players.
Playing players out of position has been happening for a long time now, even going back to the Andy Farrell days. One thing especially, is playing halves at full back and vise versa. I know it has advantages, but I prefer to see players in their natural position
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