Bang wrote:That's the end of that. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 169536.stm Maybe. I still think that if citeh were prepared to pay the reported sums then they should make one final offer, just to make sure. I don't have a problem with JT keeping silent for so long. IMO he had the prospect of getting a few million quid for doing absolutely nothing, all he had to do was keep quiet. I don't have a problem with citeh, they're just doing what they need to to improve. I don't have a problem with the Chelsea management, they seem to have stuck to their position, maybe they've given JT a pay rise, but that will only emerge through time. My only real problem is some of the stupid, childish Chelsea supporters who have been crying over him keeping quiet.

Bang wrote:That's the end of that. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 169536.stm Maybe. I still think that if citeh were prepared to pay the reported sums then they should make one final offer, just to make sure. I don't have a problem with JT keeping silent for so long. IMO he had the prospect of getting a few million quid for doing absolutely nothing, all he had to do was keep quiet. I don't have a problem with citeh, they're just doing what they need to to improve. I don't have a problem with the Chelsea management, they seem to have stuck to their position, maybe they've given JT a pay rise, but that will only emerge through time. My only real problem is some of the stupid, childish Chelsea supporters who have been crying over him keeping quiet.

All the time? I think this the first time ive mentioned them on here all summer and was replying to someone who said about you getting stuffed by a average League1 side.



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Although i think he will turn us down just like everyone has done all summer , he scored 2 goals for Fulham yesterday so looks like he will be staying there would of been a decent signing imo he doesnt score many but he holds the ball upwell which would put players like Cousin, Geo and Bullard ( when fit ) in good goalscoring positions

Certainly not looking good for us ATM tho as we are very light at right back and are 2 or 3 strikers short

It was a pre-season friendly. The second half team contained a few youngsters who've never played for the first team, one of which was the goalkeeper who made a few errors. But we got beat 6-1, the season's over - deary me.

You got hammered by a fairly average Championship side yesterday, just it didn't tell on the scoreline. What's your point?

I never said your seasons over, if anything it might be a good thing for you as your players might wake up and realise its gunna be a tough season in the Championship and its not gunna be a walk in the park.

Sheffield Wednesday are better than Leyton Orient and also how you can compare a 6-1 defeat to a 0-0 draw is beyond me

Think you need to stop clutching at them straws

Nobody has said it's going to be a walk in the park. At the moment, the most I can hope for is the play-offs at best. It wouldn't surprise me if yesterday was a message from the players to Ashley to get out of the club now, in case he had any ideas that we'd walk away with the Championship after a decent pre-season.

I wasn't comparing it, if you actually read what I said. I was making a point that friendlies mean nothing. Sheffield Wednesday battered you, but just couldn't put the ball away. They could easily have put three or four past you. Does it really matter? We beat Shamrock 3-0, Real Madrid beat them 1-0. On the basis of that, we're better than Madrid.

Bang wrote:That's the end of that. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 169536.stm I'm not sure I'd want Terry on his terms. Not the money, but the level of control he wants. He appears to have a view of his position within the club as being above everyone else, including the Manager. All this stuff about wanting assurances about which players Chelsea should sign, who should be the manager, asking for an option to become the manager when he retires etc. its just too much.

Bang wrote:That's the end of that. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 169536.stm I'm not sure I'd want Terry on his terms. Not the money, but the level of control he wants. He appears to have a view of his position within the club as being above everyone else, including the Manager. All this stuff about wanting assurances about which players Chelsea should sign, who should be the manager, asking for an option to become the manager when he retires etc. its just too much.

So even the team getting beat 6-1 by Orient is Ashley's fault?



Friendlies don't mean nothing. The results are clearly not that important, but when a side who've just been relegated from the Premier League get beaten 6-1 by a side in League One it suggests massive problems.

How do you think getting tanked 6-1 by Orient looks to potential buyers? They're not going to think it's Ashley's fault and rush to get in quicker to sort it out. They are going to see that you're team is full of ***** who are prepared to see themselves humiliated by Orient. Losing 6-1 doesn't make Ashley's departure more likely, it makes it less likely.

Shearer wants to be manager, yes? Do you think his case is made stronger by your side being thumped?

Many of the players in your squad will need to be sold when the new owners come in. Do you think it'll help to get a decent price when they're prepared to go on a virtual strike?

The only thing more embarrassing than getting beat 6-1 by Orient is your moronic attempt to put the blame on Ashley and dismiss it as meaningless. Yes, the result of losing to Orient doesn't mean anything, but the fact you got hammered means there are many people at your club that are clearly not doing the jobs they're supposed to do. No matter how many youth players you played, no matter what new systems the manager tried, no matter what turmoil the club is in, getting tanked 6-1 by Orient is completely and utterly unacceptable.

He's a Newcastle Fan it's not worth the effort talking sense they are blinded by there own ignorance, Just mention Shearer or Keegan and i'm sure he'll be estatic...

Many of the reports this summer have been that Chelsea would sell him if Citeh offered enough. There have been question marks over whether certain players would be staying, Didier Drogba being the most important. Ancelotti was something of an unknown quantity to us before we saw him work. Abramovich has clearly changed the approach of the club in terms of bringing in new players.

Given these factors, it would make sense for anyone to take a step back and really assess the situation.

As it turns out, it seems that Chelsea's public comments of not selling Terry looks like they were repeated to him. Didier Drogba, Ballack and Mikel have agreed new deals. The pre-season campaign has been top notch, which suggests Ancelotti could be a great manager for us. Chelsea may have assured Terry that new signings will be brought in if deals can be done.

Makalele said that JT was one of the major players in the removal of Mourinho. Mourinho denies that, JT denies that, the club deny that.

If JT was responsible for Grant and Scolari leaving - good. They needed to go.